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post #91 of 98 (permalink) Old 10-13-2012, 09:04 AM
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Re: Bill Goldberg: Star or just hype?

Goldberg was an awesome "power" wrestler. He had great speed and power. His timing was bad sometimes, lacked ring psychology and he was sometimes a dangerous performer (bret) but he could go in the ring with good performers.

If you think Goldberg was a bad wrestler who was overhyped just look at Ultimate Warriors career. That guy was just an unathletic bodybuilder, totally lacking any wrestling ability. He was already gassed after doing his trademark entrance running around the ring. He had some classic including with Hogan where Hogan of all wrestlers had to carry him through the match. Match had couple of stupid flaws and botches it's hilarious and that on a WM match

Any way I think Goldberg is underrated. He is not a good wrestler but he wasn't that bad either as so claim. The gimmick he had fitted perfectly with him and he was the one who could pull it off.

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Re: Bill Goldberg: Star or just hype?

Bill was really a guy with the right look, and attitude, for his time and place.

Lots of guys hate on him, because they see him as a guy who was nothing but a push. I think that is absurd. We have seen a LOT of failed pushes.

Late 1990's wrestling was very theatrical, with flashy costumes, and then a newly added badass edge to it.

Bill came along, and even though he is far from the biggest guy ever in wrestling, he was a big guy, 6'3" 285 pounds, and his body looked very strong. He did not oil up as much or even shave his chest completely, and combined with his big trapezius muscles, his look made him stand out from the typical fully shaved oiled up towering bodybuilder types.

Bills looked was based on the early MMA fighters at the time, and this was sort of a contrast to what a lot of the other wrestlers were wearing at the time. His outfit being MORE simple than the rest.

He just looked like a gritty badass, and he was really able to pull off some power moves, and he could move himself very quickly.

Then there was his intense attitude too. The little things like the look on a man's face, his body language, it speaks to the audience more than the big gestures do. The little things matter.

Now, the bad parts are also pretty obvious. Nobody ever taught be Bill the ropes on what makes for good feuds and careers, and how it would actually beneficial if a worthy opponent eventually kicks out of his finisher, so they could sell a big feud of the next several months. That sometimes it is good to lose, so you can sell a re-match.

As far as in ring performance goes, his biggest flaw was being a high risk for injuring his co-performer(opponent). Buddy the troll at the Power Plant did not do a very good job at teaching Bill the fine art of protect your opponent.

Although to be fair, the most notable injury bill ever caused a guy was a freak accident. It was a miss timed kick. I think Bill gets more flack from the IWC from that not because of what he did, but because of WHO got the career ending injury. Many wrestlers have accidentally hurt someone. It is going to happen eventually. No matter how careful you are. In Bills case it was a favorite of many of the more wrestling purist fans heroes, and Bill happened to already be on their sh!t list for being a green wrestler getting a big push.

Bill had some very great attributes, but he was not the best ever. At the time he was what WCW needed, he made a LOT of money, and got out and has handled his wealth intelligently. Bill also seems to be a genuinely good person, who cares about other people and is very polite to fans, especially kids.
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Re: Bill Goldberg: Star or just hype?

He came, he conquerd, he left. End of story. He had such an awesome presence, and it was the right place and right time for him, and he became a huge draw.
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Re: Bill Goldberg: Star or just hype?

He was a star. The guy was tremendously over during his run.

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Re: Bill Goldberg: Star or just hype?

I am still waiting for that dvd.
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Re: Bill Goldberg: Star or just hype?

Goldberg was a star. you are going to be hard pressed to find other people with that level of charisma and pure athletic ability and a great look to boot. sure, he wasn't exactly a wizard in the ring and yeah, he wasn't that good on the mic but he had the three things casuals will generally look for: Tons of Charisma, a good gimmick, the look to make the gimmick believable and the raw power and athleticism to actually wow people. (i.e. making backflips and throwing around 500 punders).
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Re: Bill Goldberg: Star or just hype?

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You have to realize that it was the NWO that got Goldberg over. Without them as rivals to further the streak, nothing was there.
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Goldberg was already over and was U.S. Champion by the time he got to the NWO and Hogan.

They wouldn't have been able to damn near sell out a Domed Stadium in Jerry Flynn's hometown on 3 days notice.


Goldberg had gotten over by just mowing motherfuckers down.


And if any guy could do what Goldberg did, why hasn't it been done since with the exception of maybe Brock Lesnar?

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And if any guy could do what Goldberg did, why hasn't it been done since with the exception of maybe Brock Lesnar?
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