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Old 10-04-2012, 04:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Whats your view of Rollerball Rocco segunda?
Ive only seen the Dynamite Kid 1980 match and few other bits and pieces, but the furious pace of that match seemed tailer-made to ease people into the style who arent used to it (even if it is a slightly by the numbers DK match), I know he was a top guy and his feud with Sayama (black tiger vs tiger mask) was a huge draw in Japan but havent seen his name mentioned here.
I read somewhere that his defection to Allstar was one of the moves which led to the end of Joints dominance.
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Oh Fuck Les Kellet, what a champ. Seriously this man rivals Eddie, Funk and any other comedic talent to ever set foot in the ring.



It only just struck me his 'almost fall through the ropes only to sping up' spot is where McGuinness got the setup for his Jawbreaker Lariat. It actually makes me despise the setup a bit less now that I know where it came from.

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Whats your view of Rollerball Rocco segunda?
Ive only seen the Dynamite Kid 1980 match and few other bits and pieces, but the furious pace of that match seemed tailer-made to ease people into the style who arent used to it (even if it is a slightly by the numbers DK match), I know he was a top guy and his feud with Sayama (black tiger vs tiger mask) was a huge draw in Japan but havent seen his name mentioned here.
I read somewhere that his defection to Allstar was one of the moves which led to the end of Joints dominance.
Rocco is a guy I still really need to delve into more to gain a proper appeciation, but so far I'd call him a good hand with some great antics and skill but someone who's behind Smith, Jones, Thompson, Grey, Cortez, Joyce, Myers, Breaks, Street and other WOS maestros.

That's no disservice to him given that list of names is pretty much the cream of the crop (though Smith is a little bit more exhibitiony for me compared to the others, and is much better when he's trying to break Jim Breaks' nose).

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Dynamite Kid vs Marty Jones 83-02-05


Right from the start Iím going to agree with Segunda Caida. From all the WOS matches I have seen so far this is the most violent, Dynamite Kid plays a great heel role in this match with the headbutts and stiff strikes heís throwing at Marty Jones and even smashing the head of Jones into the turnbuckle, Jones gets back on top of the match though after throwing Dynamite kid out of the ring.

The first fall of the match up comes in round three when Jones catches Dynamite in a nice rollup, Dynamite keeps playing the great heel role by jumping up after the pinfall and striking Jones right in the kidney

The second fall opens with Dynamite putting out his head for Jones to shack it which really gets the crowd going, Jones goes of the handshake and gets a kick to the gut for his effect, very nicely done. After Dynamite picks up a public warning its Jones turn to go on the attack with some stiff strikes before locking in a Boston crab on Dynamite which Dynamite gets out of when he kicks Jones right in the kidney. Start of the firth round is really good with Dynamite kicking Jones when heís down in the corner before Jones sends Dynamite front first into the opposites turnbuckle with a hard Irish whip, Even when the round ended Dynamite wouldnít let up on Jones kicking in squash in the head before sticking him a headbutt.

In the sixth round Dynamite gets his second public warning for a kick to the face of Jones when he is down, he follows this up with a diving headbutt and a scoop slam to take the second fall of the match to level it squash at one a piece, The crowd not happy about that at all.

Final fall sees a bloody Jones being much more aggressive a few back and forth upper cuts sees Jones fall down and Dynamite once again going for the diving headbutt but this time missing before Jones sends them both over the top rope with a crossbody and hitting a drop kick from the top rope,

Jones finally gets the win from a very nice counter.

****1/2

Very good match, great heel showing from Dynamite that really hand the crowd going almost right from the start, I donít know to much about Jones right now I think this is the first match I have seen from him so Iím not going to talk about him until I see more.

Hopefully Iíll get some more matches watched when I get back home tonight, and maybe posted some reviews of matches that havenít been posted yet.
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I personally love some of the gimmicks they had at the time.




Kendo Nagasaki is the man. Met him a couple of times and a sound guy, the gimmick of mysterious man "from the Orient" would have been so perfect as a guy they put through to face Sammartino/Morales/Hogan if Kendo had ever gone to the states. Like a UK version of Bill Eadie's "Masked Superstar" but with way cooler gear and backstory.

Catweazle and "Beautiful" Bobby Barnes. The Adrian Adonis like Bobby Barnes and the...Even now I don't know what the fuck Catweazle was meant to be.




Then of course you had fat blokes having the worst match on the card and it not mattering at all in Big Daddy (who was virtually imobile his entire main event run) and Giant Haystacks (who was so big he got stuck in the bog on a plane once).





Ah WOS, they don't do it like that anymore.
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^LOL id forgotten all about Catweazle, what a headcase. When i was younger I had a mate with a similar haircut/beard combo and my dad used to always call him Catweazle, didnt get the reference till I saw him on youtube years later.
Fucking loving those Les Kellit matches too.

Keep em coming in this thread dudes, great stuff.

Also, should mention anyone in the UK who was ESPN classic, they show old WOS a lot as Sid Waddells Wrestling Show and the choice of matches is usually really good, I like to watch it in the rightful spiritual home of the Saturday afternoon slot. The Jim Breaks V Young Davey match was on it last week, excellent match.
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^LOL id forgotten all about Catweazle, what a headcase. When i was younger I had a mate with a similar haircut/beard combo and my dad used to always call him Catweazle, didnt get the reference till I saw him on youtube years later.
Fucking loving those Les Kellit matches too.

Keep em coming in this thread dudes, great stuff.

Also, should mention anyone in the UK who was ESPN classic, they show old WOS a lot as Sid Waddells Wrestling Show and the choice of matches is usually really good, I like to watch it in the rightful spiritual home of the Saturday afternoon slot. The Jim Breaks V Young Davey match was on it last week, excellent match.


Speaking of it still being on TV. For anyone in the UK that has Sky. The channel Men & Movies has old WOS stuff on pretty much constantly. Really good range of stuff from Kellet and Barnes to guys like Finlay and Rocco.
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Now yesterday I said Steve Grey vs Clive Myers 1977 (aka what many consider the GOAT WOS match) would be the next match I posted and reviewed. However it occurred to me its been 4 months or so since I last watched it and I'd rather rewatch it and add fresh thoughts instead of going off on memory, because its an outstanding match. I'll hopefully get around to watching it tonight so in the meantime here's a prelude to Steve Grey:



Steve Grey vs Ken Joyce, (08/09/1975)

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Terrific pure grappling contest with some sensational counters, takedowns and submissions mixed in with some light hearted comedy. These two are both amazing grapplers and really work a smart and even contest that resembled a Lucha title bout with how they shifted momentum every now and then and established both men as capable of besting the other. Grey's escape of a headscissors spot at 14.40 has to be seen to be believed, so graceful and smootly executed and the crowd reaction was a nice touch. He also locks in an insane indian deathlock/over the head leg submission that looked incredible and something you expect out of Negro Navarro.

They also run some fun comedy moments particularly Grey's attempts to fool Joyce by tieing himself into a ball and feeding the arm to counter it but Joyce being wise to his opponent and in most cases playing basketball with Grey helpless and even picking him up clean off the mat and bouncing him off the floor which looked hideous. Joyce later attempts to trip Grey who casually sidesteps him and boots him in the arse for good measure! They also threw some nice headbutts during exchanges and did a terrific job in not only pacing the match smartly between comedy and serious grappling but also mixing flawless exchanges with gritty and painful looking holds that looked like a struggle to lock on.

Very fun match for any Lucha fans or people looking for intense grappling with killer submissions and flawless matwork with some nice strikes thrown in for good measure.
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Fit Finlay vs Danny Collins 86-02-01

Now before this match even begins I want to bring up how great a job Kent Walton did putting over this 18 year old Danny Collins as the under dog who has no chance against a competitor as tough as Fit Finlay, It really help build up some sympathy for the babyface Danny Collins.

Now this was billed as a catchweight match which for the most part Finlay didn’t treat as one and proceeded to give Danny one hell of a beating, Danny was taking some really nasty looking bumps all through the match including a stiff uppercut in the first round which looked like it could knock out a man who was twice the size of Danny, It could have been all over in the first round to as Finlay was just about to lock in a single leg Boston crab before the bell went.

Things didn’t get much better for Danny in the second round he did hit a cross body from the top but apart from that Finlay was in control. Kent Walton is still doing a great job getting sympathy for the babyface.

Danny did a great job in the finally round, kept getting up after everything Finlay did to him and wouldn’t stay down until Finlay finally hit him with a piledriver for the win.

Not a bad match at all ***

Danny along with Kent Walton did a great job of playing up his babyface role in this match, selling all his bumps like a champ and getting big cheers when even he hit a move, which I think he only did three times all match, A really good underdog performance by Danny Collins, and like i already said It's not a bad match.
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Oh dear god, so its getting on to 4 days since I vowed to have Grey vs Myers up and reviewed. Dear christ with this sort of relaxed attitude its a wonder I managed to obtain a degree. I will have Grey vs Myers done tonight, in the meantime however I want to link people to a match which despite not being contested in WOS remains exceptionally similar. Its from the early 1960s and sadly the youtube link despite running for 30 minutes cuts out a minute or two before the finish...but what we get is 30 minutes of some of the most intricate and mind-blowing wrestling I've ever seen. Its not for the faint of heart given its 60 years old and runs for 30 minutes, but if you want to give it a chance I'll be shocked if you regret the decision:



Gilbert Cestra vs Billy Cantazarro (1960s)

How good is this match? Its at worst a top 10 match in the history of wrestling for my money, that's how good it is. The grappling, the counters, the timing, the pacing, everything is just wonderful and transcendent for its time. People talk about how Dynamite Kid is a pioneer in the 80s but these guys are pulling off sequences and transitions that people today would be lucky to ever replicate. What makes the match even better is that it has a clear story of parity and one-upsmanship and feels like a grappling equivalent to Flair/Steamboat in that both guys come off as the definition of rivals. There's plenty of stiff strikes in amongst the wonderful chain wrestling and there are about half a dozen counters/escapes I can't recall ever seeing before. GREATNESS.
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I'll have to find out his ring name but my Granddad was a wrestler and did a few World of Sport shows. My grandma had a load of old tapes of the show and i watched them when i was very young and it's how i fell in love with wrestling. Thought I've not watched in years I'm currently getting back into the British scene. Good finds OP and great thread. Repped.
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