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Old 09-26-2012, 11:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Standing 6'4'' and 285 pounds/120.7 Kgs with a good build and not a monstrous one like Brock Lesnar, What did you think worked in Goldberg's favor selling his streak and getting him as over as he was considering the kind of guys he had around at that time like Nash, Hall, Sid, Steiner, Hogan, Luger, The Giant who were either bigger in height/size or more muscular than him? Who else could have sold a streak like him, Vader?
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Standing 6'4'' and 285 pounds/120.7 Kgs with a good build and not a monstrous one like Brock Lesnar, What did you think worked in Goldberg's favor selling his streak and getting him as over as he was considering the kind of guys he had around at that time like Nash, Hall, Sid, Steiner, Hogan, Luger, The Giant who were either bigger in height/size or more muscular than him? Who else could have sold a streak like him, Vader?

I think Goldbeg's streak was simply an extension of his "look". He just knew how to carry himself. I mean the guys like The Warlord, Sid Vicious, and Vader had "looks" that made them every bit as imposing but none of them had the demeanor. The way they simply walked to the ring could not touch Goldberg's entrance.

I think allot of it had to do with the way WCW packaged him. In these cases the less the guy talked the more imposing he was. Same with Undertaker, once they started havong Goldberg talk the less intimidating he seemed.

I think fans do not realize how important the "show" is, and by that I mean the simple art of the ring entrance. In that respect Goldberg was one of the greatest of all time.

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think Goldbeg's streak was simply an extension of his "look". He just knew how to carry himself. I mean the guys like The Warlord, Sid Vicious, and Vader had "looks" that made them every bit as imposing but none of them had the demeanor. The way they simply walked to the ring could not touch Goldberg's entrance.

I think allot of it had to do with the way WCW packaged him. In these cases the less the guy talked the more imposing he was. Same with Undertaker, once they started havong Goldberg talk the less intimidating he seemed.

I think fans do not realize how important the "show" is, and by that I mean the simple art of the ring entrance. In that respect Goldberg was one of the greatest of all time.
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Default Re: Analyze This: Goldberg's Streak

most of his wins were made up. At the beginning of the week he would be 112-0, by the end of the week he would be 140-0
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Well that is not true that most of his wins were made up.
According to The History of WWE site, which covers WCW results. Goldberg had according to my calculations just before he lost 162-0. Sure some of his matches might have been made up. but since the offical record is 173-0 that only says that 11 matches are made up. And the fact that the site does not cover 100% of all wrestling shows, there are a high possibility that there are more matches not included
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Default Re: Analyze This: Goldberg's Streak

I somewhat think the streak was a bad idea and I'll tell you why.

It was a great way for WCW to introduce a new character and all but it also left the door open for him to be exposed. What I mean by exposed is, Goldberg often squashed guys, so when the time came for him to really work a match, it was easy to realize that he wasn't as polished as he should have been. Not only that but you bury half your roster (WCW's roster was so big, whatever Goldberg's record was likely only consisted of half the roster) and wouldn't properly build up for a big match, mainly Hogan/Goldberg.

So the time has to come where the streak ends and they didn't know what direction to take. I still feel that Nash was the right choice, as he was the only top name in WCW that Goldberg didn't beat. The rest is history. So without the streak to drive off of anymore, Goldberg appeared more and more like your typical WCW wrestler. The monster was gone and his lack of wrestling skill was really evident when he ended Bret's career.

I think Mike Awesome could have worked well with a gimmick like that because he often would destroy anybody in the ring with him but also, when the time came to end the streak, he still could go out & really work a match. Goldberg without the streak is just another guy in WCW's overloaded mid card in the late 90s. So WCW did good in making him stand out but IMO, didn't think it out all the way and had nothing to hide his rather reckless wrestling style.
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Default Re: Analyze This: Goldberg's Streak

wcw really fucked up when it came to the payoff of the streak. coulda filled a 90,000 stadium and millions of PPV buys at starrcade with that, maybe gotten to 200-0

another mistake was having it end to kevin nash, an up and comer who needed the rub

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Default Re: Analyze This: Goldberg's Streak

As Greenlawler said, it really went along his look. The fact that Goldberg looked like someone who could beat anyone and was booked to feel like it too all added up to very solid package. Apart from a couple of wrestlers not many had that badass look that goldberg had.
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wcw really fucked up when it came to the payoff of the streak. coulda filled a 90,000 stadium and millions of PPV buys at starrcade with that, maybe gotten to 200-0

another mistake was having it end to kevin nash, an up and comer who needed the rub

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Default Re: Analyze This: Goldberg's Streak

Goldberg had a very impressive entrance, charisma and looked very believable. He looked much more impressive than Big Show (the giant) or any other "big" guy. He didn't have the skills though, he had to be carried in the matches.
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