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Old 09-26-2012, 01:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah, but beating Hogan clean, especially by submission, would've made Bret a bigger star. Hogan not giving him that rub was the most dickish thing he's done in his entire career IMO. Hogan would repeat this egotistical move at SummerSlam 2006 against Randy Orton.

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And again, Bret Hart did the same thing to Shawn Michaels, but you conveniently don't have a problem with that. Beating Hogan wouldn't have changed anything as far as Bret Hart's career was concerned. He was a hall of famer with or without a win on Hogan. And BTW, It wasn't just Michaels, Bret was also refusing to lose clean to Austin, Rock, and HHH as well. That is why the Kliq hated his guts.
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Random ones:

HBK at SummerSlam '06
Orndorff (86)
Big John Studd (86)
Kamala (86)
King Kong Bundy (86)
Andre (87)
DiBiase (88)
Macho King Randy Savage (89-90)
Haku (89-90)
Earthquake (90)
Slaughter (91)
Ric Flair (91 - sort of)
Brutus Beefcake (94)
Kevin Sullivan (94-95)
The Giant (1996)
HBK - already a legend on the downside of his career. Hogan wasn't the main event. This was a legends match, and thus no "feeding". Losing to Hogan didn't hurt Michaels' career in the least.

Orndorff, Studd, Bundy, Kamala, Earthquake, DiBiase, Haku, Kevin Sullivan, and Beefcake all reached their highest peak of their careers by wrestling Hogan. Not one of those guys would agree that they were "fed to Hogan" to the detriment of their careers. They would tell you that those matches with Hogan made their careers, and they got paid their highest amount of money to work with him. Beefcake was Hogan's best bro, and it was Hogan that got him paid by convincing McMahon to bring Ed Leslie into WWF.

Andre the Giant was near the end of his career, and agreed to pass the torch to hogan, because he liked him (a young Hogan was "fed" to Andre in 1980). It was Andre's last pay day, and doing a legendary match with Hogan at WM 3 was far better than the squash jobbing he was doing to the Warrior in 1989-90.

Ric Flair has beaten Hogan for the WCW world title, which was the last high profile match the two had in their long series. Flair holds multiple pinfall wins on Hogan. No feeding there either.

The Giant - He is Hogan's protege, and it was the rub with Hogan that made the Big Show what he is today. I seriously doubt he would tell you that losing to Hogan hurt his career especially since he looks up to Hogan as a father figure.

I swear some of you guys think the mere act of losing to Hogan ruins careers. It's the opposite, it makes careers, and gets guys paid quite well. Even notorious job refuser Bruiser Brody was planning on taking the leg drop in 1988 or 89 to get paid. If he didn't have a problem with doing that for the big paycheck, then I doubt many others do as well. The only guy that bitches about Hogan is the world's biggest hypocrite Bret Hart, and he DID NOT get pinned by Hogan in the WWF.

Some of you guys are making arguments that border on "still real to me dammit".
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Old 09-26-2012, 01:58 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I'll tell you one man fed to Hulk Hogan, Bret The Hitman Hart. What a waste of possibility. Hogan dumped a load of shit on the WWF from WM9 til KOTR. Thanks for nothing, HULK!
I think that Hulk Hogan's 1993 "reign" was a shameful display of his rampant ego. He muscled his way into a title picture that he had no business being involved in: he disappeared from TV for almost three months, went to Japan with the WWF title, proceeded to trash the title (called it a "trinket" and "christmas tree decoration" at a press conference) and then dropped the title to Yokozuna in a ridiculously overbooked horror show of a match. And then he left. Even as a child I hated Hulk Hogan for his 1993 run.

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Hogan and Bret Hart did not have a match at all in 1993 so there was no "feeding" of Bret Hart to Hogan. And its funny how you have this big problem with Hogan refusing to job to Hart, but give Bret Hart a pass on doing THE EXACT SAME THING TO SHAWN MICHAELS. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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Beating Hogan wouldn't have changed anything as far as Bret Hart's career was concerned.
Hmmmmmm. I don't think that this is true. I think that a big win over Hogan could've changed the course of Bret's career considerably. Hart vs Hogan would have done a huge amount for Bret's career. For starters, it would've put him back in the title picture (and main event) a lot quicker. We may have missed out on the awesome Bret/Owen feud but we would've seen Bret battling a WWF legend (which would've been a big feud) instead of a Memphis Wrestling/USWA legend (which was far less interesting as many fans still didn't really know or care who Jerry Lawler was and probably assumed he was just an announcer). Paydays aside, a Hogan/Hart match in 1993 would've been a really big deal - easily the biggest match of Hart's career until that point.

The reaction of the fans might have gone some way towards altering the course of Hart's career as well. If the fans noticably sided with Hogan, would the WWF have considered turning Hart heel in 1993? Probably not, but it's not out of the realms of possibility. It would've given Hart a whole different set of opponents and a whole different career trajectory.

Beating the biggest name in wrestling history would have reinforced his place as the top guy (and saved us from the dreadful Yokozuna reign). It would have given Hart the 'passing of the torch' moment which would've cemented him as the top new face of the company. Bret would've got the special attention that Luger was getting at the time (Lex Express style publicity shit) and actually have been pushed as a proper, legitimate main event star (rather than the 'midcarder done well' image that he had when he was first champion).

It also would've been a great way to usher in the 'New Generation' era (Old School vs New School). Also, and most importantly, it would've proved to Bret Hart that the company (and McMahon) respected and appreciated him, and was truly invested in him as a top tier performer. This would've gone some way towards preventing the chip that grew on Bret's shoulder when he felt he wasn't getting the attention and respect he deserved (during HBK's push, for example). If Bret Hart hadn't felt so insecure in his position in WWF, things might have been a lot different (he may not have been so jealous of HBK).

Just some vague ideas.
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Hogan and Bret Hart did not have a match at all in 1993 so there was no "feeding" of Bret Hart to Hogan. And its funny how you have this big problem with Hogan refusing to job to Hart, but give Bret Hart a pass on doing THE EXACT SAME THING TO SHAWN MICHAELS. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Bret refused to job to Michaels WHEN Michaels told him he refused to job to Bret. If that was me I wouldn't be very cooperative either.

I know nothing of Bret refusing to job to Rocky or Austin. In his book, Bret says Michaels and HHH wanted him to beat Rocky for the IC belt. Also going in to WM13 Bret was convinced they wanted Austin to go over him, which he had no problem with.
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I am not trying to be a jerk here guys but seriously, read the posts before responding. The OP is very clear about what he wants to know, and while I am open for debate, the answer is NO ONE meeets the criteria of the OP.

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I am not trying to be a jerk here guys but seriously, read the posts before responding. The OP is very clear about what he wants to know, and while I am open for debate, the answer is NO ONE meeets the criteria of the OP.
Bare with me but what about Jake Roberts?

Now, I know he wasn't squashed by Hogan but hear me out. WWF was setting up a feud between Jake & Hogan for the WWF Title and during the first match, the fans had grew more supportive of Jake by chanting "DDT". This resulted in WWF scrapping the idea and Jake never getting that main event run that he was destined for. That was his first and last shot at becoming a main eventer but WWF was scared the fans might turn on Hogan and Jake remained a mid carder for the rest of his career.
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Bare with me but what about Jake Roberts?

Now, I know he wasn't squashed by Hogan but hear me out. WWF was setting up a feud between Jake & Hogan for the WWF Title and during the first match, the fans had grew more supportive of Jake by chanting "DDT". This resulted in WWF scrapping the idea and Jake never getting that main event run that he was destined for. That was his first and last shot at becoming a main eventer but WWF was scared the fans might turn on Hogan and Jake remained a mid carder for the rest of his career.
Okay, now that is a well thought out response. Good post! I agree with your post but I don't think it is what the OP was looking for. Jake was his own worst enemy after that, not Hogan. But you know that.
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Dusty none of those guys were "fed" to Hogan based on the OP'S criteria.
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Okay, now that is a well thought out response. Good post! I agree with your post but I don't think it is what the OP was looking for. Jake was his own worst enemy after that not Hogan.
But, it call came down to WWE not living up to their promises. He stuck around for nearly 6 years after the failed Hogan feud and wasn't never given anything he promised. IMO, it all goes back to WWE being over protective of Hogan and not capitalizing on the talent, appeal & popularity of Jake. And it's crazy because the same thing happened shortly before with Jake & Macho Man.

As for a guy who got squashed in the ring, Hogan never "squashed" anybody but jobbers. Only guy I can think of that might be remotely close to what the OP is looking for is King Kong Bundy, as aside from squashing midgets, his match with Hogan at one of the worst WM's of all time was the highlight of his career. He went from that to wrestling midgets to getting beat by Hogan again and left the WWF for nearly 7 years. From what I understand, he was a pretty big deal in Texas.
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