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post #11 of 61 (permalink) Old 08-13-2012, 10:36 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Wrestlers who ruined their own legacy

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Just cause they return alot, doesn't mean their legacy is ruined.

If anything, returning alot has made someone like Piper, more popular.
Were you watching wrestling when Piper was popular? This is not meant to be codescending at all, I only ask because I agree and disagree. While I do agree that not all wrestlers who return allot taint their legacy, I belive Piper is one who has.

His return with Sean O'Hair in a "manager/wrestler" role was bad. His ring work was a pale shadow of who he was and his only offensive move seemed to be the eye poke. On top of that he just looked bad. Since then his telelvision appearences are largley based on his ability to do quality mic work, which he has not done since he retired. His infamous TNA rant being the most glarring exhibit.

A lot of these guys have sacrificed their reps becuase the WWE in their infinate wisdom brings them back as comedy acts 90% of the time. It's not Piper and the other legends fault...who would turn down a paycheck? To me at least this taints what they were, and guys who grew up in the 90's have no memory of how truly great some of these guys were. Instead their first exposure to guys like Piper are what they see now, which is a poor shadow of who they were.

In the 70's and 80's for the most part when legends returned they were treated with reverence. They were treated like champions. They were still pushed as if they were on top of their game. For example the WWE in my opinion, in their recent Heath Slater Raw storyline treated some of those guys like Vader, Sid, and Animal with respect. This was not how they have treated guys like Piper for the most part.

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Re: Wrestlers who ruined their own legacy

Not sure if to put Benoit in here or not. But one definately that deserves a mentioning is Scott Hall or even X Pac.

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Re: Wrestlers who ruined their own legacy

Scott Hall. I'm not sure, what X-Pac has done to get the ''X-Pac heat''.

I accept Hayley Williams rep.

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Re: Wrestlers who ruined their own legacy

Kevin Nash
Mick Foley
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Re: Wrestlers who ruined their own legacy

Benoit ruined his own legacy in terms of how WWE portrays him and people.

Xpac as far as i know should not even be named int he same sentence with the word legacy. He had an alright career but ultimately let kliq-things and drugs fuck up his career.

Scott Hall on the other hand, I consider a legend and he didn't ruined it imo. It's only dependable whether the politically correct WWE will acknowledge his contribution to the world of professional wrestling. He was a big influence in the MN wars and he had some classic feuds.

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Re: Wrestlers who ruined their own legacy

Ric flair

Not removing until-

- Ryback wins a title
- Fandango wins a title
- The Wyatt family win the tag titles
- Damien Sandow wins a singles title
- Perry Saturn returns for one night only.
- Mabel gets inducted into the Hall of fame.
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Re: Wrestlers who ruined their own legacy

Ric Flair by far
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Re: Wrestlers who ruined their own legacy

I agree Flair has hurt his reputation, and probably more so than any of the others listed. However I would make the case that most people no matter what they think of Flair probably still acknowledge that he is, if not the greatest of all time, still one of the top five stars in the history of the sport. So to say his legacy is ruined I am not sure I agree...Some of the other wrestlers have destroyed the reps more simply because they are not as fondly remembered as Flair.

For example the average fan who grew up in the 90's only remembers Hacksaw Duggen from what they have seen. They have not been told over and over on television that he was one of the greatest of all time, unlike Flair. Flair has embarressed himself, but still wrestlers like HHH and others come on television and remind the viewers that Flair was the greatest. Some thoughts to ponder.
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Benoit ruined his own legacy in terms of how WWE portrays him and people.

Xpac as far as i know should not even be named int he same sentence with the word legacy. He had an alright career but ultimately let kliq-things and drugs fuck up his career.

Scott Hall on the other hand, I consider a legend and he didn't ruined it imo. It's only dependable whether the politically correct WWE will acknowledge his contribution to the world of professional wrestling. He was a big influence in the MN wars and he had some classic feuds.
Agreed, especially on Benoit and X-Pac.
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Re: Wrestlers who ruined their own legacy

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Were you watching wrestling when Piper was popular? This is not meant to be codescending at all, I only ask because I agree and disagree. While I do agree that not all wrestlers who return allot taint their legacy, I belive Piper is one who has.
I agree.

In 1986-87, when Piper turned face after his feud with Adrian Adonis, he was arguably more popular than Hulk Hogan. That's quite an accomplishment, since Hogan was at his peak, beginning his feud with Andre the Giant. Piper was supposed to "retire" after Wrestlemania 3, to concentrate on movies and TV. If he had never came back, he would have been considered one of the all time greats.
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