I believe Rocky was supposed to face Booker T on RAW in early 2003 during his Hollywood heel gimmick. He was going to put Booker over because he wanted to help build Booker on the way to Wrestlemania. He then objected because they decided that Triple H was going to win at Wrestlemania when pretty much everyone thought Booker should win, so Rock thought it was a waste of a put-over if Triple H was going to ultimately win again.
And Booker T was infact set to go over but Vince mcmahon changed the finish of the match because Goldberg signed the deal at the last minute.
I think perhaps he was remembering back to how he worked hard to make Jericho credible in late 2001/early 2002 only for Triple H to come back and ruin it all.
Jericho was always going to drop the undisputed title to HHH on his return, I expect Rock knew this perfectly well. The feud turned out to be poor but my problem is people making it as if it was intentional by HHH to ruin jericho, it wasnt.. as a matter of fact it was actually Jericho's idea to involve Stephanie in their feud when HHH was against it when he first returned.
Originally Posted by Senor Ding Dong
That wasn't because of HHH though, that was because of Jericho and Steph, outside of The Rock, no one did more than Steph to get Jericho over in the WWF. People may complain about her these days but she did some good stuff back in the Attitude era. Who got the victory? HHH. Who did the work to get Jericho into the place where that match was possible? Stephanie McMahon.
It is true that Stephanie did a lot more for Jericho but in that feud in 2000, HHH did put him over. Losing =/= burying. Do you really understand the term at all? Jericho himself would tell you that feud with HHH helped him a lot. It was his first main event push FFS.
As for the rest of HHH burying Jericho. He tried to bury Jericho when Y2J first entered the WWF, constantly politicking against him backstage and then in their WM programme, he rejected practically every suggestion Jericho had, making Jericho look absolutely weak and contributing to the Steph angle that made Jericho look like nothing more than Steph's bitch. On the flip side HHH made himself look brilliant in everything they did and refused Jericho any upper hand. In his book Jericho seems pretty annoyed about the whole thing and is critical of it.
Makes no sense, HHH agreed to work with Jericho in his prime. If he had a problem, why would he agree to work with him?
Again, 2002 was a mess. You're trying to blame HHH for everything. It was Jericho's idea to involve Stephanie in their undisputed title feud not HHH's. It turned out to be poor, there is no proof that says HHH intentionally ruined Jericho EVER in his career. Triple H has said in interviews he was disappointed with the feud. You read Jericho's book, thats one side of the story. You dont know what really happened unless HHH or Vince talk about it.
If we look at them from when Hunter was given his push (Fully Loaded '99 onwards) it's 5-3 Hunter and his title reigns were much longer than The Rocks. Admittedly the match up is a bit closer than I remember but HHH was still in the ascendency in that feud but that's what did great business at the time, so it's understandable. I certainly loved watching The Rock chasing the title at the time and Backlash 2000's ending is one of the best of the Attitude Era.
I explained why the Rock's title reigns were shorter. He was huge draw as the guy chasing the title. In their prime year 2000, HHH never beat the Rock clean.
If you read Jericho's book then you'd see that Jericho had no problem losing unclean if it was done correctly, he just disliked when it was done all the time. He loved the Royal Rumble match, thought it was brilliant and he cheated about three times in that match to get the unclean win. It doesn't matter whether the wins were clean or not, Jericho was playing the cowardly heel and the matches were booked to reflect that. Here's an exact quote from his book:
Jericho WON unclean. Rock was his fav opponent, he probably loved their little feud win or lose.
When Jericho wanted to continue his heel run by amping it up a bit by sleeping with Steph, HHH rejected that
Yes that is true but what Jericho didnt understand is thats how it works in pro-wrestling. The Top draw gets to make the decisions. When HHH was the champion in early years, it was Rock and Austin, his top draw opponents, who made the decisions regarding their feuds, not the champion Triple H. Austin has always refused to lose clean/drop the title to HHH. He gets to make that call because he was the top draw. It was entirely the same situation here with HHH-Jericho. HHH was the hot returning babyface. And even then, it was Jericho's idea to involve Stephanie.
He just became a whiny cheat that could only retain via cheating, rather than a cheat who you love to hate. That was HHH's fault, nearly half a year of developing that character was destroyed because HHH didn't want himself to look weak.
Heels are always whiny cheats, how the fuck is that HHH's fault? Jericho even in 2008 was a whiny character. He never had the credibility to be a badass heel like HHH or Austin were in early 2001. I dont know how thats even HHH's fault.
Jericho's exact quote:
Again, this is one side of the story. Jericho's fav opponent is the rock and he liked working with him, so that proves what exactly? He knew he was going to lose to HHH at mania. The only reason he even became champion was because Austin refused to lose.
In the week leading up to WrestleMania, OTR had a WWE Superstar as the sole guest each night for the entire thirty minutes. First up was HHH. I was watching the interview, and when host Michael Landsberg asked him what he thought of his opponent for Mania, I couldn’t believe his response. “Jericho can be as good as he wants to be but he’s missing something. I don’t know what that something is, but it’s keeping him from being what he could be.” He was basically telling everybody that I wasn’t living up to my potential. The first rule I learned about interviews from Bulldog Bob Brown in Calgary was you always put over your opponent. That way if you win, you’ve really beat somebody. It didn’t matter if he thought I was missing something, I was the Undisputed World Champion! I felt that it wasn’t the best way to sell the huge match coming up in only a few days, and it annoyed me.
I dont know if Jericho knew this but OFF THE RECORD with Landsberg was not character interviews in kayfabe.
This is the part he is talking about, you can see how the question was specifically phrased by landsberg ...
Micheal Landsberg : Now you go against chris jericho. I mean this whole Interview that we have done is, its not about wrestling. Its not about talking in character but i wanna ask you about the Wrestler chris jericho, very near and dear to a lot of Canadians right? How close is he to the top? He holds the Title right now but i dont think that a lot of people look at him as the ultimate superstar. How close is he and what does he have to do to be there?
Triple h : Its difficult to say, I think Chris is just a step underneath that top tier. Why, i am not sure. I think there is a small piece of the puzzle missing. And Chris will get it i am sure. You know what i mean, its there. It sometimes takes a couple of shots at it to get it right, its not a overnight thing. Some guys "BOOM" they hit it and it just explodes and they take off, and some guys it takes a slow simmer you know, and in my career, i have had that slow simmer but when it gets boiling, its really boiling. I think its the same path chris is headed.
It was not character interviews. Considering Jericho has been in that show answering questions, I dont see why he is complaining about a honest non-kayfabe answer from Triple H.
Sounds like burying to me, part of it was Vince not having faith but HHH contributed a lot as well and it's documented that he never thought much of Jericho.
Documented where? Internet BS myth. Again, I dont know how HHH agrees to work with Jericho if he never thought much of him. HHH is a main eventer, a superstar working with HHH means he is working main events. Now why would HHH wants to work a main event program against Jericho if he never liked him? I dont get that logic at all.
if you want to see how much that did bury Jericho, he didn't get a rematch at Backlash
Thats because Hogan was hot as hell in that period. He was so hot that they put undisputed title on him at backlash. Triple H lost the title in just one month.
He got a Hell in the Cell match at the next PPV which he obviously lost and then by King of the Ring he was losing to RVD in the Semis...what was the first Undisputed Champion even doing in the Semis of KOTR?
First undisputed champion is a kayfabe accomplishment. In real world, being a draw is all that matters. Jericho, though highly talented, never drew as a top guy. He had his short little run on top because of HHH's injury/return but with the level of top talents in that year, Rock,HHH,Austin,Hogan,Taker,Shawn...he was inevitably going to fall back to the midcard no matter what.
if Jericho had been given just one victory over HHH then it would have been enough.
Nope. Thats not how it works. One victory over HHH would have made absolutely no difference.
Lose at WM, win at Backlash, then lose in the Hell in a Cell match. Instead he got an awful WM build and lost the Hell in a Cell match and was then cast back into mid card.
You dont get it, thats not how it works. Making Chris Jericho legit takes more than just one victory over HHH and a couple of screwjob wins over the Rock. Vince Mcmahon never even saw him as a big player to begin with.
Anyways, My point is simple, HHH DID NOT BURY Chris Jericho. People can blame him all they want but the truth is that the feud, which should have been great, was poorly booked and turned into a mess thanks to stephanie's involvement. There is no proof that HHH intentionally wanted to ruin Chris Jericho on his return. HHH survived the whole mess because he was a established star, Jericho inevitably fell back into the mid card partly because the upper tier was filled with the top stars where Jericho just didnt fit in, and partly because Vince Mcmahon's lack of faith in Jericho. None of this is HHH's fault, he was part of the mess not the cause of it. Right now, from what I understand after listening to their interviews they seem to be friends backstage.