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Old 08-04-2012, 10:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sure he was a crap wrestler, but he was over as hell, could cut a promo, had two title reigns and headlined two Wrestlemania PPVs.

Seems strange at a time Bischoff was signing anybody with the slightest bit of name value. Actually, it seems strange WCW waited two years to sign him.
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Sid was known to just disappear at random. Jumping back and forth. WCW to WWF in 91 back to WCW in 93 to USWA in 94 back to the WWF in 95

The 1997 thing was he started no showing and taking time off. He wanted to play softball I guess.

WCW only signed him cause he started work with ECW in 98/99


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Sid was known to just disappear at random. Jumping back and forth. WCW to WWF in 91 back to WCW in 93 to USWA in 94 back to the WWF in 95

The 1997 thing was he started no showing and taking time off. He wanted to play softball I guess.

WCW only signed him cause he started work with ECW in 98/99


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Sid Vicious was actually signed because Scott Hall and Kevin Nash pushed for him to be signed as Sting began working a lighter schedule and Goldberg wasn't as popular as he had been. The plan was for Sid Vicious to come in and feud with The New World Order as a babyface and Sid Vicious actually ended up getting a better contract that anyone else on the roster outside of Sting and Hulk Hogan.
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Sid Vicious was actually signed because Scott Hall and Kevin Nash pushed for him to be signed as Sting began working a lighter schedule and Goldberg wasn't as popular as he had been. The plan was for Sid Vicious to come in and feud with The New World Order as a babyface and Sid Vicious actually ended up getting a better contract that anyone else on the roster outside of Sting and Hulk Hogan.
This. Sid was supposed to be fresh blood for the nwo to feud with. But by the time he debuted, nwo had dissolved so they turned him heel. Plus wcw always saw money in Sid vs Goldberg...to bad Russo ruined it... I heard before Russo came in wcw was hoping for Hogan vs Goldberg II, Sid vs Nash and heel Sting vs Face Bret Hart at starrcade 99.
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This. Sid was supposed to be fresh blood for the nwo to feud with. But by the time he debuted, nwo had dissolved so they turned him heel. Plus wcw always saw money in Sid vs Goldberg...to bad Russo ruined it... I heard before Russo came in wcw was hoping for Hogan vs Goldberg II, Sid vs Nash and heel Sting vs Face Bret Hart at starrcade 99.
The problem with that though was Sting just couldn't work as a heel because the fans simply wouldn't accept it and Bret Hart had already been babyface and heel in WCW by that time and was already struggling to be what WCW expected him to be. Someone said something i really agreed with in a comment in a story on a wrestling site and that was that Eric Bischoff was a great ideas guy but couldn't do storylines so he needed someone who could turn the ideas into storylines but Vince Russo was a fan of breaking kayfabe and making things a lot more real which is why WCW was so horrible in 1999 and most of 2000 as they simply couldn't mesh well.

On topic though and i have no idea why WCW saw money in Goldberg/Sid because it was always going to be horrible as neither man could work in the ring, Sid Vicious played a great crazy heel but was average on the mic whilst Goldberg was horrible and there were better options for both men available. Sid Vicious was at his best when working with someone who was believable in against big men but could work in the ring like Sting or Shawn Michaels whilst Goldberg needed to have matches limited to ten minutes maximum because he couldn't work for longer as shown in WWE.
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The problem with that though was Sting just couldn't work as a heel because the fans simply wouldn't accept it and Bret Hart had already been babyface and heel in WCW by that time and was already struggling to be what WCW expected him to be. Someone said something i really agreed with in a comment in a story on a wrestling site and that was that Eric Bischoff was a great ideas guy but couldn't do storylines so he needed someone who could turn the ideas into storylines but Vince Russo was a fan of breaking kayfabe and making things a lot more real which is why WCW was so horrible in 1999 and most of 2000 as they simply couldn't mesh well.

On topic though and i have no idea why WCW saw money in Goldberg/Sid because it was always going to be horrible as neither man could work in the ring, Sid Vicious played a great crazy heel but was average on the mic whilst Goldberg was horrible and there were better options for both men available. Sid Vicious was at his best when working with someone who was believable in against big men but could work in the ring like Sting or Shawn Michaels whilst Goldberg needed to have matches limited to ten minutes maximum because he couldn't work for longer as shown in WWE.
Goldberg and Sid actually tore it up at Halloween havoc 99


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I really liked Sid. He had an awesome persona; really charasmatic!
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The problem with that though was Sting just couldn't work as a heel because the fans simply wouldn't accept it and Bret Hart had already been babyface and heel in WCW by that time and was already struggling to be what WCW expected him to be. Someone said something i really agreed with in a comment in a story on a wrestling site and that was that Eric Bischoff was a great ideas guy but couldn't do storylines so he needed someone who could turn the ideas into storylines but Vince Russo was a fan of breaking kayfabe and making things a lot more real which is why WCW was so horrible in 1999 and most of 2000 as they simply couldn't mesh well.

On topic though and i have no idea why WCW saw money in Goldberg/Sid because it was always going to be horrible as neither man could work in the ring, Sid Vicious played a great crazy heel but was average on the mic whilst Goldberg was horrible and there were better options for both men available. Sid Vicious was at his best when working with someone who was believable in against big men but could work in the ring like Sting or Shawn Michaels whilst Goldberg needed to have matches limited to ten minutes maximum because he couldn't work for longer as shown in WWE.
And trhat is the reason why some people don't get to book matches. Because some people just want "good wrestling matches", and that is why we sometimes get Lance Storm vs Al Snow matches, which by wrestling standards could be very good matches, but would not draw shit.

Goldberg did draw, same with Sid to a certain extent, and fans like the perception of two monsters fighting each others, despite the match might suck.

Btw that match did not suck.
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The problem with that though was Sting just couldn't work as a heel because the fans simply wouldn't accept it and Bret Hart had already been babyface and heel in WCW by that time and was already struggling to be what WCW expected him to be. Someone said something i really agreed with in a comment in a story on a wrestling site and that was that Eric Bischoff was a great ideas guy but couldn't do storylines so he needed someone who could turn the ideas into storylines but Vince Russo was a fan of breaking kayfabe and making things a lot more real which is why WCW was so horrible in 1999 and most of 2000 as they simply couldn't mesh well.

On topic though and i have no idea why WCW saw money in Goldberg/Sid because it was always going to be horrible as neither man could work in the ring, Sid Vicious played a great crazy heel but was average on the mic whilst Goldberg was horrible and there were better options for both men available. Sid Vicious was at his best when working with someone who was believable in against big men but could work in the ring like Sting or Shawn Michaels whilst Goldberg needed to have matches limited to ten minutes maximum because he couldn't work for longer as shown in WWE.

The thing is, Bret was going to be coming back after his brothers death, so he was going to be mad over. Feuding with Sting would have been good. Sting couldve turned heel on Bret after what Bret did to him the year before. Or they could have done face vs face.

Sid/Goldberg was a great match at Halloween Havoc 99, they brought some great intensity to their feud. It should have lasted longer than it did. There I quit match was way to short but was on its way to being good.
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Goldberg's matches are notorious for being short but yeah Halloween Havoc match was pretty sweet.
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