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07-12-2012, 08:58 AM
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The most complete wrestler ever..
Who was the most complete wrestler ever in your POV irrespective of them winning championships who were good in
Mic Skills
Promos
In-ring ability
Ring psychology
Personality/looks
Technical skill
Charisma
I would say Randy Savage.. Ooooohhhh Yeah! and Ric Flair.
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07-12-2012, 09:06 AM
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Re: The most complete wrestler ever..
The Rock /thread.
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07-12-2012, 09:11 AM
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Re: The most complete wrestler ever..
Chris Jericho.
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07-12-2012, 09:13 AM
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Re: The most complete wrestler ever..
Shawn Michaels.
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07-12-2012, 09:16 AM
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Re: The most complete wrestler ever..
shawn michaels, triple h or cena
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07-12-2012, 09:16 AM
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Re: The most complete wrestler ever..
Mic Skills - The Rock
Promos - The Rock
In-ring ability - Shawn Michaels
Ring psychology - Ric Flair
Personality - Steve Austin
Looks - Goldberg
Technical skill - Bret Hart
Charisma - Sting
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The highest rated segment I ever did in WWF was "This is your life, Rock". I'll never forget the Internet the next day. I was the Antichrist. It was the worst show they ever saw. The segment did a 8.4. Eight and a half million people watched that show. These people should've been kissing my feet because now eight million people were looking at wrestling. To me that's all that mattered. But you have these little cliqs of Internet people that all they care about is themselves, and what I want, and what I don't like. Well you know what, it's not about you, it's not about me, it's about the masses.
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07-12-2012, 09:19 AM
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Re: The most complete wrestler ever..
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Originally Posted by bboy
shawn michaels, triple h or cena
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One of those does not fit.
Toss up between, Jericho and hbk, if i had to pick one, Jericho might just scrape it.
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07-12-2012, 09:20 AM
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Re: The most complete wrestler ever..
Ric Flair or Undertaker.
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07-12-2012, 09:23 AM
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Re: The most complete wrestler ever..
The perfect mix of EVERYTHING...that would probably be Randy Savage.
I mean Hogan lacked in the technical aspect. Shawn lacked in the personality aspect whenever he was a babyface (heel Shawn is unfucking touchable though). Rock might have lacked in the psychology aspect, at least when compared to others. Savage is the one guy I can think of that truly excelled at everything aspect and is one of the best in every area.
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07-12-2012, 09:23 AM
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Re: The most complete wrestler ever..
Terry Funk, narrowly ahead of Flair. Lawler would ideally have been my #1 contender but the technical skill criteria wouldn't favour him. I don't think its terribly important since he managed to have enough great matches in spite of not being a great technician/pure wrestler, but since you specified it I'll go for Funk. Everyone of those criteria you mentioned he has in abundance, not many gaijins have managed to emotionally connect with a Japanese crowd to the point where they're more beloved and over than 90% of the native wrestlers, but Terry Funk is one of those people who managed to succeed where others failed. The smartest professional wrestler IMO.
For wrestlers in recent times, William Regal and Eddie Guerrero would be the standout candidates, and then going further back the likes of Austin, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard and Dick Murdoch would be right up there. Foley and Jake Roberts excel in a few of the specified criteria but would be let down by the technique and look criteria, particularly Foley since you could argue Jake's look was perfect for the character he largely portrayed throughout his career.
I'll also throw out Dutch Mantell as someone who will likely receive next to no nominations, but who really is an under-appreciated talent. His promo ability is incredible when you factor in his work during the Lawler feud of March 1982, specifically the studio match where he calls out Lawler for a now or never fight to end the feud with some stellar mic work to hype the match and then mid-match he bails to the floor and cuts an all time great promo asking Lawler to put aside the feud and go after the Midnight Express. Anyone with a brain can see Mantell sucker-punching Lawler coming a mile away, but between his incredible delivery as well as his voice and tone you get so caught up in each and every word coming out of his mouth that everything else around him doesn't get your full attention and consequently the inevitable sucker punch everyone expected still manages to retain that shock reaction because it literally comes out of nowhere.
EDIT: I can understand the Savage argument, even though I think Funk is far better at everyone of those aspects than Savage, aside from maybe charisma even if I think Funk is incredibly charismatic but in a more succinct and subtle way than Savage as 'The Macho Man'. I don't really get the Michaels/Rock shout-outs, both stand out in certain areas but are let down by other parts of the criteria in the OP, Austin would definitely be above either of those two if we're considering Attitude Era greats.
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