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Old 07-11-2012, 06:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Surprised no one has mentioned Vince 'stealing' the territories top talent like Hogan, Piper, Jake, JYD etc back in the day and then buying half of the territories out or destroying the rest.

That dwarfs everythign else IMO. I would think if that never happened and Vince was still primarily just New York/North America then the wrestling landscape would be a hugely different place.
Yep. It all boils down to when Verne pissed off Hogan and McMahon snapped him up. All the crap that followed from Golden era, Attitude era, Monday Night Wars, Montreal Screwjob, NONE of that happens without Hogan jumping to WWF in December of 1983. This is like the big bang of modern wrestling from 1984 to now. All events essentially derived from that single moment.
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:28 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Another significant thing is WCW's revolving door of head bookers and chiefs in the late 80s/early 90s. The on and off different booking styles really hurt them at some points.

If they had a consistent vince type guy who was more organised and had a better team around him then we could be thinking of guys like Sting and Flair could've been huge fish in a huge pond rather than generally seen as inferior to Hogan and Savage.
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No way the most important political move in the history of wrestling took place in the 90s. At the latest, it took place in the 80s.

It has to be Vince going against industry tradition and expanding the WWF nationally. I don't think anything else even comes close.
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Taker threatening to kick HBK's ass if he didn't do the job for Austin.
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:54 PM   #25 (permalink)
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How bout HBKs lost smile for all we know Austin's character when turned face wouldn't be nearly the same, and probably not as over, thus perhaps WCW keeps winning the race.
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Old 07-11-2012, 08:22 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Shawn Michaels and Triple H telling Vince his product sucks and they need to go in adult themed direction, without this WWF would have died in 1996 and We'd have been watching Nitro exclusively from 1997 onwards.
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Old 07-11-2012, 09:38 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I'm going to say The Curtain Call and the events surrounding that.

Now if you think about it, had that never happened and Hall & Nash never left, SCSA's push would have likely been paused, as the plan was for HHH to win it in '96. But after that happened, Hall & Nash left to start 1 of the biggest angles in wrestling history, HBK became more of the asshole character he portrayed in 97-98, HHH's push was halted, resulting in him not getting past the lower mid card for over a year and also resulted in the rise of SCSA and the birth of Austin 3:16, which with the t-shirts, became the modern day Hulkamania phenomenon.

A lot of positive for the wrestling business came from that 1 moment.
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:28 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Vince taking the WWF national.

Others include:
- The first WrestleMania (and the fact that it didn't flop)
- The first Raw
- WCW going live Monday nights
- Montreal Screwjob
- Buyout of WCW

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Old 07-12-2012, 12:44 PM   #29 (permalink)
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vince going back on his word to his father as soon as he died and crippled the territories.

hbk losing his smile has to get a mention. they play up the boyhood dream angle for him to hand the belt to vince because he didn't want to do the honors for bret, as bret did for him. Plus, vince let's shawn do what ever he wants despite being a horrible draw at the time. anyone remember hbk and vince's post match celebration at royal rumble 97?
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:30 AM   #30 (permalink)
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No way the most important political move in the history of wrestling took place in the 90s. At the latest, it took place in the 80s.

It has to be Vince going against industry tradition and expanding the WWF nationally. I don't think anything else even comes close.
Agreed 100%, but many posters were not around for the territory days. It no fault of their own that they have no idea how different the wrestling world was back then, I mean they never cracked open an Apter mag to read about guys in other parts of the States. They never had to wonder about what Mil Mascaras or Kevin Sullivan's Army of Darkness looked like on television. They did not go on vacation only to search the local stations to actually see another companies product.

I mean that move changed everything. It effectlvily killed off entire industries like the Apter mags. That in itslef changed the face of wrestling. It put thousands of local promoters, ticket takers, ushers, guys who set up rings, out of work. It changed the way guys broke into the business. It made a two party system for the next 20 years.

Montreal Screwjob was a blip on the radar by comparrison. Saying the WWE would not be around if it had not happened? That's a huge assumption.

Another significant political move IMO of huge consequences was the mishandling on and off stage of the NWO gimmick. It killed the Horsemen and every face the company had just about and eventually the WCW itself went down. Think of what happened as result, all the results. I am not sure we would have ever seen TNA if not for this decision.

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