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Brian Pillman

How far could he have gone with his gimmick. Pillman was very talented, and I think he had one of the best characters ever. But I've often wondered how things would have worked out for him had he not died. I could definetely see him being a major player in the attiude era, maybe he could have been top heel and might have been Stone Cold's biggest antognist. I mean with their history and the fact that Pillman was in a position where he could have been a main eventer by the time or during the time Stone Cold's First WWF Championship run kicked off. It might have happened. But at the same time, Eric Biscoff wrote in his book that he and Pillman planned it out that Brian could develop his Loose Cannon character and then return to WCW. So he might have been a main eventer in WCW as well.

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Re: Brian Pillman

IMO, if Pillman was still alive, he would have been in a feud with HBK for the remainder of 1997. Austin wins the title at WM 14 and Pillman replaces Mick Foley in the feud with Austin over the WWE Title, eventually winning it in the summer of 1998.

Man, out of all the deceased wrestlers, I think Pillman is the 1 who could have been a big star and never reached his full potential. Would have definately been a legend and possibly affected the rapid rise of guys like Rock and Triple H.
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Re: Brian Pillman

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IMO, if Pillman was still alive, he would have been in a feud with HBK for the remainder of 1997. Austin wins the title at WM 14 and Pillman replaces Mick Foley in the feud with Austin over the WWE Title, eventually winning it in the summer of 1998.

Man, out of all the deceased wrestlers, I think Pillman is the 1 who could have been a big star and never reached his full potential. Would have definately been a legend and possibly affected the rapid rise of guys like Rock and Triple H.
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Re: Brian Pillman

I've always said Brian Pillman would have been a star once he began that "Loose Cannon" character but as great as the character was and whilst being a great mic worker he wouldn't have been as great as people say because of his ankle injury. In WCW as a part of The Four Horsemen which is when he began the character he was must see tv every week and i'd go as far as to say he overshadowed the rest of The Four Horsemen and was probably the best thing on Nitro every week.

Once he had the injury that was it for him in my opinion because he couldn't do anywhere near the things he could do in the ring beforehand and by the time he had signed with WWE he wasn't going to be what he would have been when he was in WCW and ECW. I don't think as a character he had a rival in between 1996 and 1997 and i include Sting, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels and Hollywood Hogan when i say that because it was such an original character and would have worked perfectly during The Attitude Era.

The more he was wrestling the more pain he was in which is why he took so many painkillers during 1997 when he was wrestling on a regular basis during his run in The Hart Foundation and he was wrestling people like Shawn Michaels, Stone Cold Steve Austin and Goldust who were all great in ring workers in 1997 and worked fast paced matches which would have been hard on Brian Pillman. I think Brian Pillman would have been much better suited to being a manager and commentator which would have saved him from working matches which in turn would have stopped his dependance on painkillers which in turn may have saved his life or at least extended it.

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Candido was pretty much fucked because of his whore girlfriend and the fact that the guy he hated most was still active in WWE.

Mike Awesome is former World Champion and was a big star in Japan. It's just that his WWE run is what makes him look less successful. But, it's not like WWE would have touted him as a big star, especially when they still had Rock, Austin, Triple H, Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle and plenty more top main eventers at the time.

But, with Pillman, the AE was just kicking off. He could have had a huge impact on that. The guy was one of the best light heavyweights of his time, cut great promos, had a believable, crazy man gimmick, had the look and was highly entertaining. You can't find those qualities in just anybody.
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Re: Brian Pillman

He went way back with Austin, who called the shots politically after 'Mania 14. He had edgy character and promo skills to make Russo happy. The punch-kick style of the day was perfect for how limited he was.


Pillman would have taken Foley's spot at IYH: Unforgiven and IYH: Over the Limit.
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Re: Brian Pillman

They could have made that Pilman/Austin angle even bigger.

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Re: Brian Pillman

A revival of Austin - Pillman would have been huge in 1998, including the WWF Championship, with all of the history the two had together. It's such a tragic shame with Brian Pillman. The car accident that shattered his ankle really changed his in ring work. Look to the Pillman of the early 90s compared to his WWF run and you'll see a huge difference.

The early stages of his "Loose Cannon" gimmick in WCW and eventually full blown in the WWF, Pillman was absolutely brilliant with it. On his DVD, people mentioned that they didn't know if Pillman was just screwing with everyone with how well he portrayed that character, or if he was legitimately insane.

You have to wonder, if the car accident never happened, just how high would Pillman have sailed. At a time when talent was leaving for WCW, Pillman received a guaranteed contract, as a big acquisition for the WWF. Loose Cannon vs. Heartbreak Kid through late 1996? The what ifs are endless. With how edgy the product was getting around this time, the sky was the limit for Brian Pillman, and the Loose Cannon gimmick could have been one of the best ever, judging by how good it was in the short time we saw it.

Rest in Peace, Pillman... And I just read through Wiki that his wife was two months pregnant at the time of his death, and he never knew... That's horrible :/

Speaking of the DVD though, I just have to post this. Cracks me up. Not so much the content of the story, but how JR explains it. How proud Brian was.



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They could have made that Pilman/Austin angle even bigger.
Erm that show lost ratings as it went on.
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Erm that show lost ratings as it went on.
And I suppose that is Pillman/Austin's fault, despite during that feud, neither man being a main eventer? Also during the early stages of that feud, RAW was only a 1 hour show and some of their interactions didn't even take place on RAW, as I remember the kick off to the feud happened at Superstars. "Pillman's got a gun" took place during the time were RAW was 1 hour. I also think that the fact that the NWO angle had just took off, giving WCW speed, putting them ahead in the ratings before Pillman/Austin even began.

Don't make it out like Pillman and Austin were the reason it lost ratings.
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