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Шампион Русев 06-27-2012 12:50 AM

Saturn
 
I started watching about a year after Perry Saturn was released after his injury in WWE; I never got to watch the guy wrestle at all, but recently because of his interviews and fairly interesting life-after-WWE I had decided to look at his work in late WCW and between 2000-2002 WWE (then WWF of course).

I thought, personally, that he was a very good wrestler. I still haven't seen any videos on his promos or anything, but regardless of that, I think that he had both the power and the speed to be considered a really good agile power-wrestler. Not to mention he had a submission finisher which was simple yet great, and can be considered a 'credible' submission finisher.

What's your thoughts on Perry Saturn?
Thoughts on him being released whilst injured/barely after recovering from his injury?[citation needed]
Thoughts on how his life turned out after wrestling for WWE?

Thoughts on him possibly returning for the famed 1000th episode of RAW and the unlikelihood of him staying in WWE as anything?

Kincaid 06-27-2012 12:53 AM

Re: Saturn
 
You know how everyone always talks about the one wrestler that the big guys never got behind? Saturn's that dude. He could do EVERYTHING and it all looked believable. He should of been a way bigger star in WCW. By the time he hit WWE, they didn't need him.

jonoaries 06-27-2012 12:57 AM

Re: Saturn
 
Saturn was pretty cool. I started watching him in WCW when he began being the renegade member of Raven's Flock. That was probably the best story-line involving Perry Saturn in WCW.

His WWF run was okay, until he went apeshit on a jobber and totally destroyed the guy, which probably led to that ridiculous "Moppy" gimmick (which he got over and then got punished even further for daring to get over w/ a ridiculous gimmick. That pretty much sounded the death knell for Saturn.

As a wrestler he was pretty good. Like you said he was agile, he had creative offense, looked & sounded tough. I don't know if he had the "IT factor" to be a legit star but he had the ability to compete in my opinion.

Шампион Русев 06-27-2012 01:00 AM

Re: Saturn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kincaid (Post 11652310)
You know how everyone always talks about the one wrestler that the big guys never got behind? Saturn's that dude. He could do EVERYTHING and it all looked believable. He should of been a way bigger star in WCW. By the time he hit WWE, they didn't need him.

So he was in the in-ring version of WCWs DDP?

I don't know anything about WCW from personal experience, but I always hear that DDP had the charisma (and some wrestling skills) to become a big player, and was on his way until WCW got bought. If that's true, would Saturn have been the less charismatic but better wrestling version of DDP in WCW?

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Originally Posted by jonoaries (Post 11652321)
Saturn was pretty cool. I started watching him in WCW when he began being the renegade member of Raven's Flock. That was probably the best story-line involving Perry Saturn in WCW.

His WWF run was okay, until he went apeshit on a jobber and totally destroyed the guy, which probably led to that ridiculous "Moppy" gimmick (which he got over and then got punished even further for daring to get over w/ a ridiculous gimmick. That pretty much sounded the death knell for Saturn.

As a wrestler he was pretty good. Like you said he was agile, he had creative offense, looked & sounded tough. I don't know if he had the "IT factor" to be a legit star but he had the ability to compete in my opinion.

That sounds unfortunate. Do you have a video for that match against a jobber?
Was he doing it as a gimmick or did he really get pissed in the ring for some reason?

But yea, he certainly seemed like the perfect example of an agile big guy that the WWE has always been looking for, but has never ever ever found it.

That Guy 06-27-2012 01:30 AM

Re: Saturn
 
Saturn was a destined mid card wrestler for life, much like his Radicalz partner, Malenko. Neither of them were going to be World Champions, but they were solid in the ring and got the job done. I do think that he should have been treated better than he had been in the WWF, I mean we all got a chuckle out of him preferring Moppy over his girlfriend, but in all seriousness he could have been a wrecking machine in the European/Intercontinental division.

Hotdiggity11 06-27-2012 01:45 AM

Re: Saturn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxitron (Post 11652328)
So he was in the in-ring version of WCWs DDP?

I don't know anything about WCW from personal experience, but I always hear that DDP had the charisma (and some wrestling skills) to become a big player, and was on his way until WCW got bought. If that's true, would Saturn have been the less charismatic but better wrestling version of DDP in WCW?



That sounds unfortunate. Do you have a video for that match against a jobber?
Was he doing it as a gimmick or did he really get pissed in the ring for some reason?

But yea, he certainly seemed like the perfect example of an agile big guy that the WWE has always been looking for, but has never ever ever found it.



DDP had already long peaked as a wrestler [He was around 45 years old when WCW was bought]. He definitely had the charisma and in-ring abilities to be a bigger star but WCW was too stuck in the past and, despite DDP getting three WCW Championships, they lasted less than a month all together.

The Manowarrior 06-27-2012 02:50 AM

Re: Saturn
 
Perry Saturn was not bad in WCW as well. When those guys feuded with Filthy Animals.

dave 1981 06-27-2012 07:50 AM

Re: Saturn
 
Perry Saturn for me was one of those guys like Raven, Mike Awesome, Lance Storm, Shane Douglas, Bam Bam Bigelow, Stevie Richards and Big Vito that WCW signed from ECW simply so ECW couldn't have them and to pack out their own roster but with no idea on what to actually do with them soon after signing them. In ECW as a part of The Eliminators i'd go as far as to say that only The Dudley Boys were a better all round tag team and they are considered to be one of the very best of all time which says a lot of about how good The Eliminators were.

Much like with Raven in WCW it started off alright for Perry Saturn as he was basically the enforcer of The Flock alongside Raven, Billy Kidman, Chris Kanyon, Lodi, Scotty Riggs and Van Hammer and if i remember rightly Perry Saturn was briefly th TV title holder although by that time in WCW that title didn't mean what it did in the early 90's. Once Perry Saturn turned face and began feuding with Raven he became more and more irrelevant as WCW only knew how to book the top four or five feuds and everything else including their Cruiserweight division became directionless and poorly used.

I didn't have much hope for Perry Saturn really when he came to WWE as WWE by 2000 were stacked in every department and he was always going to be behind in the mid card to Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero and Dean Malenko who came in with him as well as Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, William Regal and Taz. If i look at someone who was booked horribly in WWE then Perry Saturn would instantly spring to mind as he had horrible storylines with Terri Runnels and fucking "Moppy" which saw Perry Saturn thrown in horrible matches with Raven and The APA.

Patrick Bateman 06-27-2012 07:57 AM

Re: Saturn
 
I never liked him.

jonoaries 06-27-2012 03:42 PM

Re: Saturn
 
Saturn in ECW as part of The Eliminators was probably the best run of his wrestling career. An awesome team and I suggest any of their matches against RVD & Sabu.

Saturn going crazy on jobber Mike Bell:



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