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post #11 of 108 (permalink) Old 06-24-2012, 01:19 AM
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Re: The Montreal Screwjob.. Who acted worse?

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dafuq? Do you honestly think people hold fucking lifelong grudges over scripted championships?
KO Bossy seems to think Bret was so humiliated by his boss publicly screwing him over, basically saying "fuck Bret". Now, if the humiliation was that big, where you supposedly got "screwed" in your home country, not to mention the incident with your brother, why would you go back?

Like I said, either Bret could not be trusted, unintentionally causing this mess or it was a work that backfired when HBK fucked up his back and Bret had the concussion then the stroke.
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Re: The Montreal Screwjob.. Who acted worse?

Bret never wanted to leave the WWE in the first place, but Vince couldn't support that ridiculous 20 year contract Bret signed, so Bret financially had no choice to go to WCW. Not to mention HBK avoided putting him over with the whole "lost his smile" thing and claimed that he would never lose to Bret. So basically you choose to screw over the guy who basically saved your company from going under, while he put over anyone you asked him to, because he had one final request not to lose to his enemy in his home town? I know Bret had a major ego, but to say he acted the worse is absolutely ridiculous.

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KO Bossy seems to think Bret was so humiliated by his boss publicly screwing him over, basically saying "fuck Bret". Now, if the humiliation was that big, where you supposedly got "screwed" in your home country, not to mention the incident with your brother, why would you go back?

Like I said, either Bret could not be trusted, unintentionally causing this mess or it was a work that backfired when HBK fucked up his back and Bret had the concussion then the stroke.
It's called growing up and being an adult about putting differences aside and making amends with the people who MADE YOU A FUCKING STAR...
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It's called growing up and being an adult about putting differences aside and making amends with the people who MADE YOU A FUCKING STAR...
It's called not being humiliated to the extent that some people claim and not refusing the likely large amount of money Vince threw at him.

Either that or, as I said, it was a work that backfired. I'm not saying Bret was wrong in going back, but it's funny how his and HBK's version of the screwjob have drastically changed since 1997. Was Bret really that humiliated? I mean, did the screwjob really negatively affect his career?
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Re: The Montreal Screwjob.. Who acted worse?

I honestly cant, for a minute, believe that you believe what you're saying here. You think Bret only came back because he swallowed his pride and said "yeh man, i was the one who was wrong"


As much as Bret marked for himself, the guy did nothing to deserve the shitstorm that was the Montreal Screwjob.
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I honestly cant, for a minute, believe that you believe what you're saying here. You think Bret only came back because he swallowed his pride and said "yeh man, i was the one who was wrong"


As much as Bret marked for himself, the guy did nothing to deserve the shitstorm that was the Montreal Screwjob.
When did I say that?

I'm saying that while people try to portray Bret as the innocent, he "unintentionally" caused the mess by refusing to drop the title, even if it was in Canada. His career wouldn't have been affected anymore from either scenario.

He supposedly stood up against HBK. Shawn got suspended because of their backstage fight in the summer of '97, not Bret. And I don't think Vince was totally wrong, if the screwjob was indeed a shoot. WWE was in hard times back then, why should Vince take a chance in Bret possibly jumping ship with the belt, potentially sticking a fork in WWE? Trust? This is the world of wrestling, history shows you can't trust anybody, for as many people Vince fucked over/mocked during the rival with WCW, it's only sensible that he expected and prevented Madusa 2.0 from happening, this time with his most prized possession.

You don't what was going on in Bret's mind, the "Sunny Day's" comment, the way HBK mocked his family. All this had to be cleared by Vince ahead of time. Time and time again, Vince has sided with HBK, condoning everything rotten he has done.


Answer me this: What was the reason Bret left WWE for anyway?
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It's called not being humiliated to the extent that some people claim and not refusing the likely large amount of money Vince threw at him.

Either that or, as I said, it was a work that backfired. I'm not saying Bret was wrong in going back, but it's funny how his and HBK's version of the screwjob have drastically changed since 1997. Was Bret really that humiliated? I mean, did the screwjob really negatively affect his career?
Obviously it did, Bret's career basically ended that night. He had a shit run in WCW and never wrestled full time again. Bret to this day is still butt hurt about the screwjob and I honestly don't blame him. HBK was such a POS, I guarantee Brett wouldn't mind doing the job for anyone else (yes even in Montreal). Vince could have compromised with Bret but instead he fucked the guy over.
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Re: The Montreal Screwjob.. Who acted worse?

It's Vince's fault. You gotta keep your eyes on the assets (wrestlers) and if there's a chance that your big star is going to leave your company pretty soon then make him drop the title ASAP, Hart left WWF because of bad Vince's management.

P.S. And Shawn Michaels is a d-bag.

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Re: The Montreal Screwjob.. Who acted worse?

I only realised after watching the Bret VS Shawn DVD about Hebner only being nobbled right before the match and Bret holds no probelms with him,

Would everyone here have done the same thing if they were Hebner?

Still here 'You screwed Bret' chants!!
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Re: The Montreal Screwjob.. Who acted worse?

Okay let me point some stuff out, that i have read.

1. Bret Hart had Creative control for the last 30 days of his wwe/f contract
2. Bret apparently said to Shawn he was okay with putting him over, but Shawn said he wouldn't do the same
3. This made Hart not want to drop it to Michaels. He claims he would have dropped it to anyone else apart from Shawn

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