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Old 06-22-2012, 10:46 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Brian Lee was in DOA at the time, as Chainz. Like you say though, he was a little on the short side to pull off the character. One of the major things that made Kane so impressive was that he stood taller than Undertaker.
Lee was part of WWE as Chainz, but if he was playing Kane, he'd be under a mask anyways, so don't see how it would have been any prob to do so.

WWE also had Kurrgan(7 feet tall) who could have fit the role for Kane.
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:09 AM   #12 (permalink)
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What if Kane didn't work out? His boobs would be saggier :kane


Probably would've killed the feud at the next PPV and have to repackage him yet again.
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Old 06-22-2012, 02:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Default Re: What if Kane didn't work out?

With regard to Brian Lee, this is just speculation, but I've read that Undertaker actually buried (no pun intended) Lee's career because Lee supposedly slept with Taker's first wife (not Sarah, but the one before her).
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Old 06-22-2012, 05:57 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I have to admit, looking back I'm kind of surprised it wasn't Brian Lee that got the nod. Lee was the man that played the fake Undertaker in '94 and is well known as being one of Mark Callaway's best friends within the industry. I believe he was also a free agent at the time the Kane character was getting ready to be launched and so was ready to go under the mask, the only thing that was perhaps against him was that he 'only' stood at 6'6".
For one Glen Jacobs was always really liked by Vince McMahon and after the character of Isaac Yankem went nowhere he wanted to bring him back some how and after being chosen to play the fake Diesel in early 1997 he was first choice to play Kane afterwards. Secondly Brian Lee was said to have seriously fallen out with The Undertaker back in the mid 90's after the Undertaker/Undertaker feud going into Summerslam in 1994 with it being rumored to have been based on Brian Lee and the wife of The Undertaker at the time so Brian Lee who i believe was still in WWE as part of The Disciples Of Apocalypse or maybe in ECW would have been a non starter.
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Old 06-22-2012, 06:16 PM   #15 (permalink)
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If Kane debuted now, the gimmick would never get over. Today's fans feel like they're at a comedy show rather than a play. Rather than sit and respond when it's appropriate, they'd rather try to heckle for a cheap buzz and it can totally ruin the product on occasion. Remember some of the Undertaker promo's leading up to WrestleMania where the fans were giving him the "WHAT?" and it totally ruined one of his promos. The way they're treating Ryback and Albert as wel by referring to past gimmicks in their chants and in Ryback's case not even his previous gimmick, they chant Goldberg.

Luckily the fans allowed Kane to get over and in hindsight it turned out to be one of the best debuts of all time and we've had over a decade full of good work from him since.
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If Kane debuted now, the gimmick would never get over. Today's fans feel like they're at a comedy show rather than a play. Rather than sit and respond when it's appropriate, they'd rather try to heckle for a cheap buzz and it can totally ruin the product on occasion. Remember some of the Undertaker promo's leading up to WrestleMania where the fans were giving him the "WHAT?" and it totally ruined one of his promos. The way they're treating Ryback and Albert as wel by referring to past gimmicks in their chants and in Ryback's case not even his previous gimmick, they chant Goldberg.

Luckily the fans allowed Kane to get over and in hindsight it turned out to be one of the best debuts of all time and we've had over a decade full of good work from him since.
Yeah, imagine Kane debuting today, in the age of the Internet...

IS-AAC YAN-KEM! *clap, clap, clap-clap-clap* IS-AAC YAN-KEM! *clap, clap, clap-clap-clap* IS-AAC YAN-KEM! *clap, clap, clap-clap-clap*
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I have to admit, looking back I'm kind of surprised it wasn't Brian Lee that got the nod. Lee was the man that played the fake Undertaker in '94 and is well known as being one of Mark Callaway's best friends within the industry. I believe he was also a free agent at the time the Kane character was getting ready to be launched and so was ready to go under the mask, the only thing that was perhaps against him was that he 'only' stood at 6'6".
That's what I wondered. Undertaker apparently choosing Glen Jacobs over someone who was apparently his best friend never fit. It adds credence to the rumour of their fallout however, although the size of Jacobs probably had something to do with it. He wasn't just tall he was built like a tank back then, and I for one genuinely believed he could defeat Undertaker.

Kane is my favourite gimmick I think. The storyline worked, somehow, and he has had a longer career in the WWE than a lot of other actual "Super" stars, and even now is credible despite some ridiculous storylines. His current tale with AJ is interesting, Kane is playing his part well I think.

The original mask and then the attire changes up until he lost it were all pretty good. I'm not one of those who thinks Kane has been ridiculous since losing the mask, but I thought the original unmasking had massive potential. Even on Raw. The fact he wasn't burned, a pathological liar in having everyone believe he was, and as a psychotic fit really well I thought, and added another layer to the character. He should have had months and months just showing up and destroying faces and heels as he no longer gave a f**k after he had been exposed.

If he didn't work out then he would have followed so many; Giant Gonzales and The Executioner as examples. Two months of not being over with the crowd, Kane would have been buried alive and another string to the Undertakers bow.

I think there were a lot of reasons why Kane got over: The Undertaker was really hot at the time so with his 100% backing, the character could reach it's potential. Glen Jacobs had a tremendous Physique, and added with the mask and Red & Black attire, really stood out as a monster in a world of freaks. The storyline wasn't poor and had the right amount of time invested into it, if you suspend disbelief to watch wrestling and enjoy The Undertakers work, then you could suspend belief to believe in Kanes storyline. He didn't speak, (Were his first words "Suck It?") and just stood there like a menace, and a machine. He smashed peoples faces with wrenches and beat up 7 guys at a time, as well as eventually helping dump someone in a sewer. In a world where everything was changed, fans related to this positively and reacted the right way to a heel..

Kane is still around now, some 15 years later, main eventing television and winning at Wrestlemania. That is a massive feat and a credit to the longevity of the character and talent of the man behind him.

He has had to put up with some shit though.
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