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WCW Late 2000-01

WCW started getting progressivly worse following the botched Starrcade 97 finish. 98 was a great year but with the addition of an extra hour on Nitro and the addition of Thunder resulted in a viewer burnout (take note wwe). Not only that but that storylines where getting repetitive with the NWO still going strong into April/May when they split, and there being no new stars being pushed. Exception Goldberg-DDP. WCW strong supported really slowed down in late 99 and 2000 which resulted in 2000 being a mess creativly.

This leads to my question-Was WCW getting better in late 00 early 01?
They where grooming new stars (natural born thrillers)and had a good main event scene of fresh stars in Booker T, Stiener and Jarret along with DDP and Goldberg. Throw the returning Sting into the mix and 2001 wouldnt have been a terrible year. And with the attitude era ending the veiwership would have turned back to WCW throughout 2001 and 2002.

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Re: WCW Late 2000-01

Starrcade 2000 was a bad show, but they started to find their feet shortly afterwards. The Sin PPV was their best show in nearly two years. Superbrawl and Greed were even better.

John Laurinatitis took control in November 2000 and Jimmy Hart was a key part of the booking team. Bischoff had some input as he was trying to buy the company. Like TNA right now, it took the new booking team a little time to get things back on track after Russo nonsense. It was working, although it wasn't reflected in the ratings.


The PPV side of business had been damaged beyond repair. However, Nitro was still a highly rated show by the standards of cable and TNT. But AOL Time Warner wanted to pull the plug...
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Re: WCW Late 2000-01

The simple answer is no WCW wasn't getting better in between late 2000 and mid 2001 but they couldn't really get any worse than they were in between 1999 and 2000 as they were shocking booking wise. Things like Oklahoma the Jim Ross spin off, Vince Russo and David Arquette winning World titles, Hogan/Flair at Superbrawl and Uncensored, Kiss, Judy Bagwell On A Pole, the Goldberg "refusing to follow the script" thing, Hogan/Jarrett/Russo at Bash At The Beach and Master P are all things that will haunt my dreams forever.

If i'm honest though WCW went backwards rapidly from the minute Randy Savage beat Sting at Spring Stampede in mid 1998 as WCW went into overkill mode with The New World Order splitting into two separate factions with Wolfpac and Hollywood and everything else outside of Goldberg became an afterthought. The mid card and tag team divisions became irrelevant whilst the Cruiserweight division which had long been the backbone of Nitro wasn't as focused on and the show began to suffer because of it.

From the minute Nitro began in September 1995 through to early 1997 i would say Nitro was a much better show overall but WWE got much better in January 1997 and whilst the ratings didn't show it yet WWE was already better than Nitro as WCW had no idea on how to book outside of Sting/Hogan for the most part so when that finished so did their creativity.

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Re: WCW Late 2000-01

There WAS hope to be had. It would have meant TNA would never exist and the influx of young stars(especially from the Indies) would have helped tremendously for WCW. As long as booking and creative improved and they stopped trying to force older 40 somethings down everyone's throats, WCW could have came back from the dead. Of course by the time they started to improve, it was too late anyway.

In the following years (2001-2003)Jarrett would have dominated, Air Styles(AJ Styles) may have went to singles competition and made it big in the cruiserweight division, Jericho MIGHT have come back if promised the right amount of money(his huge WWF push hadn't come yet), Booker T would be a huge face still, Mysterio could have been utilized like the WWE used him. You get the picture.


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Re: WCW Late 2000-01

The only time I ever watched WCW on a weekly basis was between 1999 and 2001, and I actually liked it. Sure, looking back now, the storylines and some of the booking is just horrible.


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Re: WCW Late 2000-01

I guess it was destiny. The company was in wrong hands and those hands wanted to pull the plug, which they did. I'm just sad that Chris Jericho didn't buy the company as I've heard in an interview he would've bought it but he didn't know the price was so low. Having WCW around right now would make WWE's product way better than it is right now. WWE needs competition, only then it thrives.

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Re: WCW Late 2000-01

After Russo left it was actually a really solid company. I would have loved to see what would have happened had Bish came back in charge. Although I think Goldberg would have had to win the belt shortly because Booker T was pushed to much like a Rock Clone because of Russo. But after Goldberg beat Steiner for the belt, booker could have turned heel and feuded with himn.
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I guess it was destiny. The company was in wrong hands and those hands wanted to pull the plug, which they did. I'm just sad that Chris Jericho didn't buy the company as I've heard in an interview he would've bought it but he didn't know the price was so low. Having WCW around right now would make WWE's product way better than it is right now. WWE needs competition, only then it thrives.
Yeah, i saw that bit in the breaking the code DVD i was dying to find out just how low a price Vince got it for, he musta been laughing his ass off.


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I guess it was destiny. The company was in wrong hands and those hands wanted to pull the plug, which they did. I'm just sad that Chris Jericho didn't buy the company as I've heard in an interview he would've bought it but he didn't know the price was so low. Having WCW around right now would make WWE's product way better than it is right now. WWE needs competition, only then it thrives.
I'm pretty sure that Jericho was making a joke that he could have afforded it for what it was sold for...but was never really serious about it. He could have bought the company but wouldn't have the liquidity to run the company without a serious investor group and why would he do this while he was intimately tied up with WWE. I do wish WCW was still around and the two were competing but Jericho wasn't the answer.
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