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post #31 of 65 (permalink) Old 06-12-2012, 02:23 PM
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Re: Hulk Hogan 1993

Originally Posted by humanracer25 View Post
Going a bit off topic but the Hogan thing to me is just an attempt by the WWE of finding a better draw than Bret, a trend that would repeat itself through Hart's time as top babyface. Hart is one my favourite babyfaces but sadly he could not draw as big as Hogan or Austin. Having Hogan back in the main event scene even for a few months was probably seen as a way of getting more viewers. Look at this way:

1992 - Hogan leaves due to steroid scandal Bret beats Flair in a surprise win to become World Champion thus becoming top babyface.
1993 - Hart loses to top heel at Wrestlemania but Hogan returns and becomes champion again.Hogan leaves and the WWF attempt to make Luger top babyface.
1994 - Luger gimmick fails and Hart is pushed again beating the top heel at Wrestlemania. However by the end of the year Diesel wins the title and is promoted as top babyface.
1995 - Diesel is a flop and after a year Hart gains a clean victory over Diesel to win the title. Hart is top babyface again.
1996 - Hart loses to Michaels who is now promoted as the top babyface. Michaels doesn't draw much more than Bret despite him being a top class wrestler like Hart. Vince then persuades Hart to return to the company and he is once again top babyface.
1997 - Hart is the top babyface and is due to win the title from Shawn but he gets shafted again. Hart finally turns heel and puts Austin over. Hart retains a babyface status in Canada and leaves the company in 1997 as the top guy.
1998 - Austin is the top babyface and face of the company. A much bigger draw than Hart, his popularity is just what Vince wanted.

So you can see how the New Generation era can be defined as a constant attempt to find a top draw replacement for Hogan. Hart by default was the guy because the others were not much better. Shawn was his equal, perhaps even better in some cases but Diesel and Luger were dire and I can see why the babyface spot kept coming back to Hart. Hart was a a top class wrestler but what matters more is ratings.
Awesome post. Vince was guilty of investing in a lot of failed projects in that ero: Luger, Diesel, Crush and Mabel etc.
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post #32 of 65 (permalink) Old 06-12-2012, 11:36 PM
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What was Hulk Hogans first match on raw?

I was just curious did he wrestle on raw in 1993? Or did he really just win the belt at MANIA 9 and keep it till King of the Ring without any appearances??
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Re: What was Hulk Hogans first match on raw?

Hogan didn't actually wrestle on Monday Night Raw in 1993 but he made a couple of appearances (I think).

Here's one:

His first Raw match wasn't until 03/11/2002 when the nWo (Hogan/Hall/Nash) faced Rock & Austin in a handicap match.

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Re: What was Hulk Hogans first match on raw?

That's pretty weird, a decade of Raw without Hogan competing who was arguably the biggest wrestler of all time.

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What a debut for Hogan, the biggest star power match in wrestling history. Crazy to think about it now on TV for free but it was 6 days before WM18 with a CLEAN finish.
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Re: What was Hulk Hogans first match on raw?

Originally Posted by Clique View Post
Hogan didn't actually wrestle on Monday Night Raw in 1993 but he made a couple of appearances (I think).

Here's one:

His first Raw match wasn't until 03/11/2002 when the nWo (Hogan/Hall/Nash) faced Rock & Austin in a handicap match.
holy shit, i remember that promo like it was yesterday.
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post #37 of 65 (permalink) Old 06-13-2012, 03:20 PM Thread Starter
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Despite being WWF Champion, Hogan barely appeared on TV at all during his 1993 WWF run. An in ring promo and a few pre-recorded clips. He didn't wrestle on Raw until 2002.

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Yokozuna was pushed to the moon as a unbeatable monster heel at this time. IMO a defeat was not a option for a young guy who was the top heel of the company at this time.
But Hulk Hogan beat him in less than two minutes. They were hardly protecting him.

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post #38 of 65 (permalink) Old 06-13-2012, 07:28 PM
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Re: Hulk Hogan 1993

I thought he was filming a movie or tv show in between mania and king of the ring
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Re: Hulk Hogan 1993

From Wikipedia and i've seen roughly the same over the years,

Return and departure (19931994)

Hogan returned to the WWF in February 1993, helping out his friend Brutus Beefcake in his feud with Money Inc. (Ted DiBiase and Irwin R. Schyster), and officially renaming themselves The Mega-Maniacs.[61] At WrestleMania IX, Hogan and Beefcake took on Money Inc. for the WWF Tag Team Championship. However, Hogan thought he was too big of a star to be a tag champion and instead wanted the world title. So Hogan and Vince McMahon came up with the plan that Hogan and Brutus would be disqualified in their match. Later that night, Hogan won his fifth WWF Championship by pinning Yokozuna only moments after Yokozuna had defeated Bret Hart.

McMahon then planned that Hogan and Bret Hart would eventually fight in a big match at Summerslam 1993 in which Hogan would drop the title to Hart, Hogan did not want to drop the title in a clean victory to Hart, due to Hart's size and doubts over whether he could draw, and opted to lose the title to the heel Yokozuna instead. At the first annual King of the Ring pay-per-view on June 13, 1993, Hogan defended the championship against the former champion, Yokozuna, in his first title defense since defeating Yokozuna at WrestleMania IX. Yokozuna kicked out of Hogan's signature leg drop and scored the pinfall after Hogan was blinded by a fireball shot by a "Japanese photographer" (actually a disguised Harvey Wippleman), this was Hogan's idea as he did not want Yokozuna to gain a clean victory over him. The victorious Yokozuna proceeded to give Hogan a Banzai Drop.

This was Hogan's last WWF pay-per-view appearance until 2002, as both he and Jimmy Hart were preparing to leave the promotion. Hogan continued his feud on the international house show circuit with Yokozuna until August 1993. After that, Hogan sat out the rest of his contract which expired later that year.

In 1994, Hogan, having received immunity from prosecution, testified in the trial of Vince McMahon relating to shipments of steroids received from Dr. Zahorian by both parties. Under oath, Hogan admitted that he had used anabolic steroids since 1976 to gain size and weight, but that Vince McMahon had neither sold him the drugs, nor ordered him to take them. The evidence given by Hogan proved extremely costly to the government's case against McMahon. Due to this and jurisdictional issues, McMahon was found not guilty.

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post #40 of 65 (permalink) Old 06-14-2012, 04:36 AM
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Re: Hulk Hogan 1993

here is some footage with hulk on wwf tv as champion in 1993 fast foward to 8:26

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