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Re: who should have ended Goldberg's Streak?

Nash was hot as hell when he broke the streak, the Wolfpac were huge, as big as Goldberg's fanbase. Goldberg was of course the bigger mainstream star and it wasn't the right time, but if Nash beat Goldberg, then going to a Goldberg/Hogan/Nash program for the belt? would have been huge. DDP was already at his peak in the Malone/Rodman angle, he was a big star, one of the biggest of the MNW and over big but not on the level to sacrifice Goldberg for him. They had the perfect match at HH 1998.
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Re: who should have ended Goldberg's Streak?

Bret Hart. He needed a fresh rub after WCW basically kept him dormant for a year and wasted all the momentum from his switch to WCW. He needed and should have looked and been used as legit threat to anyone. Instead they made him out to be mid carder.

Eventually Bret did get a bit of a rub by beating Goldberg a lot during their eventual feud but Hart ending the streak with that steel vest under his shirt would have been an epic mark out moment - and i was a massive Goldberg fan.
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Re: who should have ended Goldberg's Streak?

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me being a ddp fan it would come as a surprise that i think it shouldnt have been ddp. goldberg should not have been beat clean and ddp winning through a screwy finish would have ruined the match.
I often tussled with that angle too in my head and I came to the conclusion that Goldberg had to be beaten CLEAN. It was just time for the streak to end and it was a waste that some future big player missed the chance to capitalize off that.

I think any heel tactic would have cheapened the streak and Goldberg himself (as Nash's taser thing did), but losing clean would have made the guy who beat him and given the Goldberg character a chance to show some resiliency.

Ultimately though Goldberg was one dimensional and after losing the streak he didn't have anything so I don't know.

Its hard to book a dude amassing over 100 victories straight to lose clean or to lose by cheating.
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Re: who should have ended Goldberg's Streak?

Nash, Hogan, or any nWo member had no right to beat Goldberg for that streak because the nWo were getting stale and almost over (so we thought) at that point. It should have been someone we could have bought able to beat Goldberg who the fans can get behind. Fuck Nash and the Wolfpac. Fuck Hogan and nWo Hollywood. It should have been a scrappy underdog who never gave up in DDP or the veteran star who was at the tail end of his career but still had some left in the tank in Sting. That's it. Nash beating Goldberg was just typical nWo bullshit and everybody knows it.

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Bret Hart. He needed a fresh rub after WCW basically kept him dormant for a year and wasted all the momentum from his switch to WCW. He needed and should have looked and been used as legit threat to anyone. Instead they made him out to be mid carder.

Eventually Bret did get a bit of a rub by beating Goldberg a lot during their eventual feud but Hart ending the streak with that steel vest under his shirt would have been an epic mark out moment - and i was a massive Goldberg fan.
Eh I'm totally against Bret ending the streak. I think Bret coming in fresh off being WWF's champion and doing what Hogan, Sting, Giant etc couldn't do would have made WCW look second rate.

I agree that Bret wasn't used properly but I don't believe he should have ended the streak. I have no doubt that with a performer like Bret you could have booked Bret to simply out wrestle the brawler and Bret had the credibility to beat him but it would have made WCW the minor leagues if they had done that and I always prefer giving rubs to in-house talent first.
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Nash, Hogan, or any nWo member had no right to beat Goldberg for that streak because the nWo were getting stale and almost over (so we thought) at that point. It should have been someone we could have bought able to beat Goldberg who the fans can get behind. Fuck Nash and the Wolfpac. Fuck Hogan and nWo Hollywood. It should have been a scrappy underdog who never gave up in DDP or the veteran star who was at the tail end of his career but still had some left in the tank in Sting. That's it. Nash beating Goldberg was just typical nWo bullshit and everybody knows it.
My thoughts exactly. It ruined the whole damn thing.
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Re: who should have ended Goldberg's Streak?

me being a ddp fan it would come as a surprise that i think it shouldnt have been ddp. goldberg should not have been beat clean and ddp winning through a screwy finish would have ruined the match.

that leaves us with the heels. hogan hart steiner hall nash (heel ddp) bam bam savage. out of those nash wasnt a bad choice the way it was done on the night. steiner wasnt pushed aggressively up till that point. hart would have been the best choice if the company was to move on or they could have let the streak continue on for a bit longer and then hit the button.
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Re: who should have ended Goldberg's Streak?

DDP came close at Halloween Havoc, I have no doubt seeing him beat him in a great rematch would have been nice. Certainly better than Nash booking himself to win.
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Re: who should have ended Goldberg's Streak?

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me being a ddp fan it would come as a surprise that i think it shouldnt have been ddp. goldberg should not have been beat clean and ddp winning through a screwy finish would have ruined the match.

that leaves us with the heels. hogan hart steiner hall nash (heel ddp) bam bam savage. out of those nash wasnt a bad choice the way it was done on the night. steiner wasnt pushed aggressively up till that point. hart would have been the best choice if the company was to move on or they could have let the streak continue on for a bit longer and then hit the button.
Nash was a bad a choice. I don't like the idea of the nWo ending the streak. The nWo was dominant and had finally been dethroned so it was time to sit them down for awhile (especially Hogan).

In a perfect world I would have done this:
After Goldberg beat Hogan, I would have Hogan threaten to quit/retire if he didn't get an immediate rematch. Set up the rematch and had the nWo throw everything at Goldberg and Hogan loses again.

Afterwards you have Hogan cut a promo on Nitro about retiring because he can't cut it anymore. Then have Hogan leave for about 6 months to a year and have him return under the yellow & red.

The ultimate challenge: Goldberg vs "The Immortal" Hulk Hogan, the streak vs hulkamania for heavyweight title at Starrcade 1999-2000. Would have done huge business.

But that would mean Goldberg treading water for at least another year until the big payoff. I don't think that character had enough in the tank to make it.
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Re: who should have ended Goldberg's Streak?

I don't think so at all (Bret ending the streak making WCW look like lower leagues) but we all have opinions. If anything it would have added to the whole 'WCW - where the big boys come to play'

What i don't think people in the US understand is just how huge Bret Hart was in Canada, Europe and Australia - and i believe WCW needed Bret Hart to take some WWF's market share in those markets. But they blew it and the fact that even at their worst WWF was more legit and popular overseas then WCW was at it's peak is part of the reason WCW died.

Didn't mean to go off on a tangent there - but there are plenty of reasons why Hart should have ended the streak, much more so than anyone IMO if we are talking business.
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