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Old 08-08-2014, 09:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Probably not getting too many responses here. The WWA World Heavyweight Championship was an offshoot of the NWA title that was based in California in the 1960s.
It was defended and recognized in Japan, The Southwest, the Midwest, the Northwest, Atlanta, and parts of Canada. It was held by, among others, Freddie Blassie, Rikidozen, Edouard Carpentier, Dick the Bruiser, the Destroyer, and Cowboy Bob Ellis.
Defenses of it drew enormous crowds, particularly in the Olympic Auditorium. It was more widely defended geographically than the AWA or WWWF titles.
My question is was this title officially recognized as a "World Title" or was it just another regional title?
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My question is was this title officially recognized as a "World Title" or was it just another regional title?
During the time that you are talking about there were three major World Heavyweight Championships that I was aware of as a wrestling fan. The NWA title was the most widely recognized in the U.S., Canada, and overseas. The AWA title was mostly in the Midwest of the United States, but got play in other areas. The WWA was mostly recognized on the west coast and probably in some areas of Canada. I believe Blassie defended in Japan, but I won't swear to it.

In the September, 1961 issue of BOXING ILLUSTRATE/WRESTLING NEWS there are two big articles. The main one reports on Rogers defeating O'Connor before the record crowd at Comiskey Park on June 30, 1961. That is the title that WRESTLING REVUE and BOXING ILLUSTRATED/WRESTLING NEWS recognized.

However, they also had a report on Fred Blassie taking the WWA championship from Edouardo Carpentier in California.

Hang on and I'm going to dig out my copy of BI/WR with the articles and photograph them. I'll post some photos in 15 or 20 minutes.

But, to answer your question - I would consider it a regional title back in the early sixties. Neither the WWA or Gagne's AWA was nearly as widespread and influential as the NWA at that time.

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Awesome. Thanks.
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From what I have read on the topic, the West Coast was so foreign to the rest of the wrestling world it really did not matter what the NWA thought.

I do think it was considered the third title for a very brief period of time by most writers, but like Mike said their territory really did not expand much. The AWA would grow the WWA held pat, so the "world title status" was probably just there because of the rift and to appease West Coast fans, similar to WCCW's world title.

They re-applied for NWA membership in 68.
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When Blassie held the title he actually beat Thesz.
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BOXING ILLUSTRATED/WRESTLING NEWS, SEPTEMBER, 1961 (Actually on the newsstands on August 1st)
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MAIN ARTICLE ON ROGERS/O'CONNOR TITLE CHANGE
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ARTICLE ON BLASSIE/CARPENTIER WEST COAST TITLE CHANGE
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THE OFFICIAL WRESTLING RATINGS (NWA VERSION) AT THE TIME OF PUBLICATION
(Notice that Rogers is rated #1 as NWA champ and O'Connor is rated #2 as former NWA champ. Verne Gagne is rated #3 over Blassie #4 which would indicate which championship was more respected at the time.)
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That's awesome. Thanks so much.
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Since I had the magazine out (which I normally don't do - notice the latex gloves I use while handling the mag) I decided to give Greenlawler a special treat. Knowing how much he likes Sputnik Monroe I photographed the article that this issue had on him and Rocket Monroe.

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those old wrestling and boxing magazines are true treasures. with the modern advent of websites that kind of history may be lost.

lol at tom mcneely being on the cover of that magazine(I'm a huge boxing fan, particularly heavyweights).
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