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Re: Did WWE water down Stone Cold in 98/99???

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96 Austin vs Bret feud > Austin vs McMahon

Thats just my personal preference.

Both GREAT feuds, but him vs Bret in 96 was
Agreed. I would rather see Face Hulk Hogan v 96 Austin then SCSA v NWO. The heavy machinery sh** was okay for a year but once you've seen it you've seen it. It's why Austin v anyone besides Vince never worked and McMahon v anyone besides Austin never worked. I don't want to say you can't top it's just an act you can't do twice.
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Agreed. I would rather see Face Hulk Hogan v 96 Austin then SCSA v NWO. The heavy machinery sh** was okay for a year but once you've seen it you've seen it. It's why Austin v anyone besides Vince never worked and McMahon v anyone besides Austin never worked. I don't want to say you can't top it's just an act you can't do twice.
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Re: Did WWE water down Stone Cold in 98/99???



Maybe just a bit.

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Re: Did WWE water down Stone Cold in 98/99???

Every time I see that fucking Survivor Series '96 promo reminds how great a talent Austin was, he was always was a great talker but before his neck injury he also was a great wrestler. He still was able to have good matches after the injury but before that injury he was probably, from a talent standpoint, the most complete wrestler at that time. As for his character in 98-99, it is the naturally progression of the top guy to become less edgy and more centered on catchphrases, it happened with Austin, it happened with Rock, it happened with Cena.


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Every time I see that fucking Survivor Series '96 promo reminds how great a talent Austin was, he was always was a great talker but before his neck injury he also was a great wrestler. He still was able to have good matches after the injury but before that injury he was probably, from a talent standpoint, the most complete wrestler at that time. As for his character in 98-99, it is the naturally progression of the top guy to become less edgy and more centered on catchphrases, it happened with Austin, it happened with Rock, it happened with Cena.
I wouldve loved to see a 96 Austin title reign of some sorts
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Maybe just a bit.
God watching these makes me really miss stone cold. And we got nerds on this forum making threads saying stone cold wasn't popular and some nerds compare him to cena. lol!


Stone Cold is the G.O.A.T

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I wouldve loved to see a 96 Austin title reign of some sorts
That would've been amazing, unfortunately the closest we ever got to seeing that Austin with the world title is in 2001 and both of those heel turns kind of fell flat.

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Re: Did WWE water down Stone Cold in 98/99???

Sort of.

His character itself become more crowd pandering, but at the time it was actually what the fans wanted. We embraced Austin so much up until that point that him giving back just made us love him even more. That said, he was actually more foul mouthed as the envelope was continually pushed and was always the spearhead for swearing. So, it's tough to say "watered down", but he definitely pandered more.

His entire gimmick from 96-97 was basically the guy who thought he should be at the top but a conspiracy always kept him down (basically how he felt about WCW). Once he had been the champion, you have to move that character in another direction. With Vince now the world's biggest heel it made perfect sense to actually make Austin's original gimmick come to fruition. It was the perfect transition and was seamless.

I think that it just comes down to Austin being red hot in performances and promos from 96-97 that even though he was red hot audience reaction wise in 98-99 it was impossible to maintain that level of excellence. Austin from 96-97 IMO was the greatest thing to watch ever, from a character standpoint. Austin 98-99 was the greatest thing to watch ever, from a fan perspective.
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Re: Did WWE water down Stone Cold in 98/99???

Stone Cold said on his podcast with Big Show that one reason he didn't want to put over Big Show was because he felt like they were trying to hold him down or something. When did Big Show join WWE?

He did put Show over by making Show take 7 stunners..and back then no one kicked out of a stunner.
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Austin from 96-97 IMO was the greatest thing to watch ever, from a character standpoint. Austin 98-99 was the greatest thing to watch ever, from a fan perspective.
Sums it up pretty well right there.
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