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Old 06-23-2014, 11:34 PM   #31 (permalink)
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WCW treated its belt like anyone could win it.
Nah. Before everything in WCW went to shit, they really cared about their titles. Especially the US and World titles. Back then if you were US Champion, you were automatically the number 1 contender for the World title and they made a huge deal about that and the title itself. And being World Champion was always pushed as a larger than life accomplishment until once again, everything went to shit.
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I'd rather work with wrestlers, not big men brawlers. Sting and Ric Flair are the only names that fit that mold. There's a REASON it's called the HEAVYWEIGHT title. Back then with a few exceptions, the title was RESTRICTED to heavyweights. (Sting, Flair, Savage and Hart being the noteable exceptions.) Razor didn't get the world title not because he wasn't over, but he wasn't as muscular as Hogan, Nash etc.
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I'd rather work with wrestlers, not big men brawlers. Sting and Ric Flair are the only names that fit that mold. There's a REASON it's called the HEAVYWEIGHT title. Back then with a few exceptions, the title was RESTRICTED to heavyweights. (Sting, Flair, Savage and Hart being the noteable exceptions.) Razor didn't get the world title not because he wasn't over, but he wasn't as muscular as Hogan, Nash etc.
Yet Shawn got the title.
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I'm talking pre-Nitro WWF. The only two lightweights in WWF that had rthe belt were Bret and Flair...you can't deny that. Shawn was the first light heavyweight to get the belt since Flair and then the WWF started to make that belt more important with guys like Jericho, Edge, Punk, Eddie, etc. I challenge you to name ONE lightweight not named Hart or Flair or Savage to get a WWF title run before HBK.
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I'd add Ron Simmons to that list as well.
Forgive my ignorance because I'm only 24, but what did Ron Simmons do in WCW that surpassed The APA?
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What does pre-Nitro have to do with anything.
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Nitro started in 95 and WWE knew they had to compete so they put the title on Bret then HBK, which started the chain of lightweights finally getting their due. At a time when Jarrett ws 2 time WCW champ the belt was dsevalued to the point of it not meaning anything...the name David Arquette or Vince Russo ring a bell? Jarrett's numerous IC title runs FAR outweigh his two WCW title runs just because of how devalued that belt was back then.
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Besides the fact that the WCW title changed hands like waterby the time Jarrett had it. It lost all its value by that time.
Don't go that route.


Because if you want to, I can point out how, between January 1991 (when the WCW World Title branched off from the NWA lineage) and April 2000 (when Jarrett finally won it), it changed hands 42 times. But, in that same time period, the WWF Title changed hands 42 times.


The most times the WCW World Title has ever changed hands in a calendar year prior to Jarrett winning it was in 1999, when it changed hands 11 times. But guess what? The WWF Title also changed hands 12 times in 1999.


The amount of World Title changes for both companies in the 9 year period after WCW split from NWA and before Jarrett won a World Title is nearly identical. Not to mention, the IC Title changed hands 46 times in the same time period.



And guess what? The most times the IC Title ever changed hands in a calendar year was 11....IN 1999!!!



So, don't say the WCW Title lost value because it changed hands so often and ignore how it changed hands less than the WWF Title or the IC Title, whether in that same 9 year time frame or in '99, when all belts were being passed around.




Bottom line: Being a main event guy and getting to work Hogan, Sting & Goldberg >>> being a mid card guy and working D-Lo, Al Snow and Chyna. And I don't even like Jarrett but don't pretend like being IC Champion in the mid card trumps getting a push, main eventing and being used consistently in the top angle on the show.
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So you'd rather work with guys rthat are famous on NAME ALONE vs guys who could actually WORK A MATCH? Me personally, if I could wrestle, I'd RATHER be in the midcard working great matches, than selling merch because I'm the most famous name in the world. Out of Hogan, Sting and Goldberg, the only guy I'd wanna work a match with, is Sting. Hogan couldn't wrestle and was only famous for Hulkamania and Goldberg kicked Bret's head off. Who would YOU rather work with, honestly?
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I'm talking pre-Nitro WWF. The only two lightweights in WWF that had rthe belt were Bret and Flair...you can't deny that. Shawn was the first light heavyweight to get the belt since Flair and then the WWF started to make that belt more important with guys like Jericho, Edge, Punk, Eddie, etc. I challenge you to name ONE lightweight not named Hart or Flair or Savage to get a WWF title run before HBK.
Bob Backlund.


Kayfabe wise, pretty much identical size to Flair.

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So you'd rather work with guys rthat are famous on NAME ALONE vs guys who could actually WORK A MATCH?
Not sure what the fuck this has to do with anything.



Al Snow can work his ass off. He ain't no draw.

Hogan ain't the best worker but he's a draw.

If I wanna make money, it's pretty obvious which one I'd rather work.


If I'm Bam Bam, hell yeah I'd work Lawrence Taylor. That's a lot better than working 1-2-3 Kid and getting a quarter of the payoff I'd get working LT.




Think about it. Guys don't complain because they got pulled from the mid card with guys that can work and placed into the main event with guys that can draw but can't work.

If that was the case, Jarrett (himself), Punk, Austin, Flair, Luger, etc. would have never left certain companies when they did, especially walking away from situations where they were with guys that could work.

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