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Instances Of Hogan Using Creative Control/Politics

Hogan had creative control in WCW and in his comeback run in WWE. What instances do you know of where Hogan used creative control?


I read that Hogan refused to put HBK over at Summer Slam. He was pissed off about it, but couldn't change it due to creative control. Of course this lead to him overselling Hogan's offense, which was his own way of mocking him.

On a side note, Hogan once said he only used his creative control once in WCW.
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Surely Starrcade 1997.
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The whole Ultimate Warrior situation in '90-'91 seems fishy to me.

People love to say that Warrior dropped the title because he wasn't a draw, despite failing to provide any significant information to back that up.

But from what I understand, the idea for WM 7 was Warrior/Hogan 2 but Hogan didn't want to work Warrior. That's when the idea was presented to have Warrior drop the belt to Savage at the Rumble but Savage broke his hand/wrist and was taken out of the equation. Needs to be said that by the fall of 1990, Hogan/Slaughter was already going to be the main event, regardless if it was for the title or not. Hogan leaps in, introduces the idea of Warrior dropping the title to Slaughter, who would then drop it to Hogan.


In 1993, Hogan agrees to come back to WWE but ONLY if he's given the title. Part of that scenario was:

Hogan wins the title at WM
Drops the title at KOTR to Yokozuna, due to a controversial finish with a heel Japanese referee
Hogan regains the title at Summerslam

Problem was, Vince & WWE weren't too fond of the specifics of the second part, prompting Hogan to take his ball and his crew and leave, only agreeing to work European shows for the summer, since his name was possibly a reason for the gate.


Come to think of it, Hogan never dropped a title clean in WWE (at least from '88 to '93).

Evil Hebner in '88
Tombstone on a chair in '91
Stripped of the title in '91
Controversial finish in '93



Shot down an idea in '94-'95 to have Flair, who just lost a retirement match, return as his ally against the heels. This pretty much lead to the end of Flair on WCW's booking team.
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Come to think of it, Hogan never dropped a title clean in WWE (at least from '88 to '93).

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Ultimate Warrior, WM 6.
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Ultimate Warrior, WM 6.
Oh yeah, the one where he kicked out simultaneously with the 3 count. Forgot about that.
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Oh yeah, the one where he kicked out simultaneously with the 3 count. Forgot about that.
Warrior is generally regarded as winning clean that night.
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Re: Instances Of Hogan Using Creative Control/Politics

Pretty much all of WCW 1997-2001.

Vince Russo has told many stories where Hogan just utter refused to follow any kind of authority.

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Warrior is generally regarded as winning clean that night.
Fuck that got to do with me? Or with what I said?



Cuz I don't recall saying Hogan's creative control/politics was the reason for that. I just pointed out the obvious, so take it how you want.
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Re: Instances Of Hogan Using Creative Control/Politics

Hogan could have done so much good by helping establish the younger guys. He could have possibly saved WCW if he would have ended the NWO (by Sting/Goldberg) and then took a manager type face role. I still think WCW should have been able to stick around much longer with the egos in check.
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Re: Instances Of Hogan Using Creative Control/Politics

Wrestlemania IX was definitely him politicking his way to the top with his "Hogan in the Bank" contract.

SummerSlam 2005 is well known and it's safe to assume he decided the outcome to his match with Randy Orton a year later. There was no reason whatsoever for him to win that match, specially since that remains his last match in WWE to this day.
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