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Old 01-03-2014, 09:38 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I call bullshit on Hogan jobbing to Sid.


First of all, it was thought to believe Hogan's farewell match. Why the fuck would he be booked to lose?

Secondly, Sid failed a piss test before WM, so eliminating my first point, why would he be rewarded with a victory over Hogan?

Lastly, if it wasn't for Hogan leaving for Hollywood, Sid wouldn't have worked him until Summerslam at the earliest.


That whole scenario was set up to where Hogan shouldn't lose. Made no sense for him to lose.
Sid was promised the main event of WrestleMania VIII by Vince McMahon when he was signed. Originally, it was going to be Warrior Vs. Sid for the WWF Championship with Sid winning the title, but Warrior was out of a job after the SummerSlam debacle. Then it got changed to Hogan Vs. Sid, but Hogan didn't want to pass the torch to Vince's next planned golden boy so again we got the shitty finish which got Sid to quit because he didn't like the backstage politics.

Vince had big plans for Sid after WrestleMania VIII otherwise Sid would've done the job.

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2002:Hulk Hogan vs HHH

Hogan wants Rock vs Hogan to mainevent WM 18.HHH wants the championship match to mainevent WM.

Looks like finally Hogan met his match but HHH gets to know the Power of Hogan and politics and loses the title to him.Lol.

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Looks like finally Hogan met his match but HHH gets to know the Power of Hogan and politics and loses the title to him.Lol.
Don't think it was the case of HH politicking,rather the case of power of Hulkamania running wild brother

Didn't HHH cut a promo after Backlash 2002,blaming the fans for losing the title
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Don't think it was the case of HH politicking,rather the case of power of Hulkamania running wild brother
When I said Power of Hogan,I meant power of Hulkamania.Yeah.I should have been more specific.
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Just listening to sting talking about the starcade incident tells you everything you need to know about hogan . Poor sting, a big star in his own right , sounds so humble and sad when talking about that debacle . The beginning of the end of wcw ....
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Most of these examples are pretty poor. Top guys have the freedom to often pick and choose who they want to work with and protect their character. Austin did it. Hart did it. Rock did it. Cena does it. Punk does it. I guess it's only an issue if you don't like that wrestler.

No doubt Hogan has repeatedly flexed that muscle but that's life as a top guy and just about anyone whose ever been champ will tell you how big of a target was put on their back.

If from 84-90 Hogan refused a job tough nuggets he was absolutely correct to do that. He was undisputedly the biggest act in the industry. He also has the right to avoid certain situations that would make him look like Cena. That's brand protection. To me it's only politics if he's flexing his muscle and it's hurting the product. Sting v Hogan was an example of Hogan wrongly using creative control. Hogan is not responsible for Justice failing a drug test. If that outcome was changed because Sid was no longer a player well that's on Sid.

I wouldn't classify Hogan v Warrior 2 never happening as politics. That would require one to turn heel and while the discussion certainly took place it's just something both guys would be very hesitant to pull the trigger on. Once again it's brand protection. WM 7 was the right way to go but I do think there's an argument that could be made that Warrior Savage should have been the title match.

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Most of these examples are pretty poor. Top guys have the freedom to often pick and choose who they want to work with and protect their character. Austin did it. Hart did it. Rock did it. Cena does it. Punk does it. I guess it's only an issue if you don't like that wrestler.

No doubt Hogan has repeatedly flexed that muscle but that's life as a top guy and just about anyone whose ever been champ will tell you how big of a target was put on their back.

If from 84-90 Hogan refused a job tough nuggets he was absolutely correct to do that. He was undisputedly the biggest act in the industry. He also has the right to avoid certain situations that would make him look like Cena. That's brand protection. To me it's only politics if he's flexing his muscle and it's hurting the product. Sting v Hogan was an example of Hogan wrongly using creative control. Hogan is not responsible for Justice failing a drug test. If that outcome was changed because Sid was no longer a player well that's on Sid.

I wouldn't classify Hogan v Warrior 2 never happening as politics. That would require one to turn heel and while the discussion certainly took place it's just something both guys would be very hesitant to pull the trigger on. Once again it's brand protection. WM 7 was the right way to go but I do think there's an argument that could be made that Warrior Savage should have been the title match.
I agree with a lot of that. Hogan has clearly used his stroke and pull throughout his career but he really was head and shoulders above everyone in the WWF from 84-90 and some of the examples used against him seem slightly harsh for that period.

Where I think Hogan can be criticised is his career with WWE in the lead up to Mania 9 and his time in WCW. Hogan should never have beaten Yokozuna the way he did at Mania 9 and there are a number of things which should have been very different in WCW. The Sting match being the most obvious one.

The Hogan not putting Bret over issue is a hard one. Bret gives a good account of it in his book and despite clearly not trusting Hogan, he also put some blame on Vince not fully trusting him and misleading him over a win over Hogan as well at that time. W It's a while since I read so can't recall all of the facts about what Bret thought was going to happen(a match between Hogan and Bret at Mania and Summerslam with Bret going over in one of them I remember) that but it seemed to paint a different complexion on what I got from Bret in some of his media interviews alone. Either way Hogan beating Yoko in 30 seconds was one of the worst decisions WWE ever made.
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Im sure Bret/Hogan was being hyped/advertised in WWF Magazine at the time too.
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If from 84-90 Hogan refused a job tough nuggets he was absolutely correct to do that. He was undisputedly the biggest act in the industry. He also has the right to avoid certain situations that would make him look like Cena. That's brand protection.
I can agree with this.But it was his decisions in the 90's that was fucking horrible.Such as this.


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Either way Hogan beating Yoko in 30 seconds was one of the worst decisions WWE ever made.
It's either this or sacrificing Wrestlemania 27 to promote Rock vs Cena that would top Wrestlemania's biggest mistakes.

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