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Dammit. I remember Phantasio/Spellbinder now.


I remember him from USWA and I wanna say there was a "fireball" angle with him and Brian Christopher. Possibly in '97. Greenlawler, do you recall this?
Yes, but those fireball gimmicks blend together in my memory banks as the USWA used them often.....but you are right there was one.
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Rip Rogers is the head guy in OVW now.

Isn't Buck Zumhofe on the run/in hiding for some legal issues? That's all I know him for.
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Didn't Zumhofe get arrested for molesting his daughter recently or some shit like that...anyway, yeah Rock n Roll Buck Zumhofe from AWA.

Rip Rogers, original Hollywood Blonde.

Bobby Fulton. Became Robert Fulton the manager?

Was gonna use Dean Ho in my list, but he's more of a 70's guy.
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Didn't Zumhofe get arrested for molesting his daughter recently or some shit like that...anyway, yeah Rock n Roll Buck Zumhofe from AWA.

Rip Rogers, original Hollywood Blonde.

Bobby Fulton. Became Robert Fulton the manager?

Was gonna use Dean Ho in my list, but he's more of a 70's guy.
Hustler Rip Rogers wrestled as a Hollywood Blonde with Ted Oates but I don't think they were the originals. If I am not mistaken the Hollywood Blonde gimmick was used often and I cannot remember the originals, but it may have been Buddy Roberts and Jerry Brown. I know Ken Timbs and Eric Embry used the moniker too, maybe Pillman and Austin were the most famous ever, although now that I think of it Patterson and Blassie may have used that moniker?

Robert Fuller was Col. Parker. He was a booker and champion for the Alabama based Deep South and Knoxville based Continintal promotions. He also fueded with Lawler allot in the 70's in Memphis. His dad was a very important figure in the territorial days and actually had ownership of some minor league sports teams I think.

Bobby Fulton was very different but I don't want to give that answer away.

You are right Dean Ho was a 70's guy....but I just had to put him on here

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Ready for the next round? I am going with twelve just makes it easier to break a tie.

1. Bobby Jaggers

2. Tiger Chung Lee

3. Speed

4. Buck Zumhofe

5. Rip Rogers

6. Jonathon Boyd

7. Bugsy McGraw

8. Teijo Kahn

9. Bobby Fulton

10. Dean Ho

11. Man Mountain Link

12. Mr Olympia
Yeah I'm fucked here.


2. I wanna say I remember Tiger Chung Lee from WWF's TNT where he was trying to shatter some bricks and I seen him in an old WWF battle royal from either 84 or 86. Can't look to clarify but it was one or the other. Other than that, I'm clueless.

4. I only know Buck Zumhofe from molesting his daughter. But, my local cable company and ESPN had a few AWA matches On Demand a few months back and I want to say he was in one of them. I want to say it was either in a tag match with ??? against Greg Gagne & Curt Hennig or was it the 6 man cage match that had Gagne & Snuka teaming with somebody else against Brody, possibly John Nord and maybe Buck? It probably wasn't and RCN & ESPN haven't had anymore AWA matches On Demand in about 2-3 months now.

5. I only know Rip Rogers from the story about him getting Barry Windham's keys out of a shit-filled toilet. That makes me think he was either in JCP in the 80s or WCW in the 90s but I honestly can't say for certain or if that story is even true.

9. I know Bobby Fulton was a member of the Fantastics with Tommy Rogers but I haven't seen their work as a team very much, as I think that was before my time but I want to say they appeared on one of the early Clash Of The Champions shows against the Bushwhackers, then known as The Sheepherders. Whichever one it was, I think was the same one that had the Luger/Flair contract signing and when coming back from commercial, I remember Jim Ross being backstage (or in the parking garage) talking about what just happened, which turned out to be the Horsemen attacking Flair. So, obviously this was '88 and really had nothing to do with the topic. And I think the Fantastics beat Luke & Butch.





So, honestly, the only guys I've ever seen wrestle out of any of these are Fulton (which was only 1 match) and Tiger Chung Lee (in a battle royal Andre won in either '84 or '86). Zumhofe is tricky because I know he worked in AWA but I can't remember if he was feuding with Greg Gagne around time for the 6 man tag team cage match that had Brody or when Gagne & Curt teamed up against 2 guys I can't remember.



Side note: Even if I am wrong, could you tell me who was in that 6 man tag team cage match? So far, I got:

Greg Gagne, Jimmy Snuka & ??? vs. John Nord, Bruiser Brody & ???


And I'd like to know who Hennig & Gagne teamed up against. Can't remember the year, as this was retrospective viewing but I think it was in a casino. Obviously, with Hennig involved, it had to be towards the end.











Matter fact, I take it back. I do remember Slaughter working a match against Nord and afterwards, Brody came out and Slaughter fought him and Nord off. He then cut a promo, calling out the champion but I can't remember who the champion was. Could it have been Buck or did he ever hold the title?
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Yeah I'm fucked here.


2. I wanna say I remember Tiger Chung Lee from WWF's TNT where he was trying to shatter some bricks and I seen him in an old WWF battle royal from either 84 or 86. Can't look to clarify but it was one or the other. Other than that, I'm clueless.

4. I only know Buck Zumhofe from molesting his daughter. But, my local cable company and ESPN had a few AWA matches On Demand a few months back and I want to say he was in one of them. I want to say it was either in a tag match with ??? against Greg Gagne & Curt Hennig or was it the 6 man cage match that had Gagne & Snuka teaming with somebody else against Brody, possibly John Nord and maybe Buck? It probably wasn't and RCN & ESPN haven't had anymore AWA matches On Demand in about 2-3 months now.

5. I only know Rip Rogers from the story about him getting Barry Windham's keys out of a shit-filled toilet. That makes me think he was either in JCP in the 80s or WCW in the 90s but I honestly can't say for certain or if that story is even true.

9. I know Bobby Fulton was a member of the Fantastics with Tommy Rogers but I haven't seen their work as a team very much, as I think that was before my time but I want to say they appeared on one of the early Clash Of The Champions shows against the Bushwhackers, then known as The Sheepherders. Whichever one it was, I think was the same one that had the Luger/Flair contract signing and when coming back from commercial, I remember Jim Ross being backstage (or in the parking garage) talking about what just happened, which turned out to be the Horsemen attacking Flair. So, obviously this was '88 and really had nothing to do with the topic. And I think the Fantastics beat Luke & Butch.





So, honestly, the only guys I've ever seen wrestle out of any of these are Fulton (which was only 1 match) and Tiger Chung Lee (in a battle royal Andre won in either '84 or '86). Zumhofe is tricky because I know he worked in AWA but I can't remember if he was feuding with Greg Gagne around time for the 6 man tag team cage match that had Brody or when Gagne & Curt teamed up against 2 guys I can't remember.



Side note: Even if I am wrong, could you tell me who was in that 6 man tag team cage match? So far, I got:

Greg Gagne, Jimmy Snuka & ??? vs. John Nord, Bruiser Brody & ???


And I'd like to know who Hennig & Gagne teamed up against. Can't remember the year, as this was retrospective viewing but I think it was in a casino. Obviously, with Hennig involved, it had to be towards the end.











Matter fact, I take it back. I do remember Slaughter working a match against Nord and afterwards, Brody came out and Slaughter fought him and Nord off. He then cut a promo, calling out the champion but I can't remember who the champion was. Could it have been Buck or did he ever hold the title?
Not sure on the six man match, or the tag match, I will look into it.

Zumhofe never held the AWA title, when Slaughter was there it would have had to have been Larry Z. or Bockwinkle.
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9. I know Bobby Fulton was a member of the Fantastics with Tommy Rogers but I haven't seen their work as a team very much, as I think that was before my time but I want to say they appeared on one of the early Clash Of The Champions shows against the Bushwhackers, then known as The Sheepherders. Whichever one it was, I think was the same one that had the Luger/Flair contract signing and when coming back from commercial, I remember Jim Ross being backstage (or in the parking garage) talking about what just happened, which turned out to be the Horsemen attacking Flair. So, obviously this was '88 and really had nothing to do with the topic. And I think the Fantastics beat Luke & Butch.
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Yeah, I looked it up now and was able to find an exact playlist of the matches I watched On Demand and Buck wasn't in any of them.



Side note: The cage match I'm talking about wasn't even 6 man, it was just a tag team cage match and I got it mixed up with a 6 man involving Snuka & Gagne. But, Snuka & Gagne did team up in the cage against Brody and Nord.




So, aside from the molestation, I have no clue about Buck Zumhofe.

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Jupiter Jack wins...


1. Bobby Jaggers; Worked the territories as Hangman Bobby Jaggers, won several titles, and even tagged with Hulk Hogan for a while. Was an upper card worker for much of his career especially in Pacific Northwest and in Puerto Rico, but achieved his "national" fame on WTBS in the Tag team the Kansas Jayhawks. Retired soon after being in the building the night Brody was murdered.

2. Tiger Chung Lee: Jupiter nailed it, went from top flight worl in New Japan (I think New Japan but one of the top Japan promotions for sure) to lower mid card filler for WWF.

3. Speed: Son of promoter Buddy Wayne, undersized but a good worker. Speed was Ken Wayne's masked personna taging with Nightmare Danny Davis. Later he stopped calling himself Speed and replaced Nightmare II. He would have light heavyweight title reigns across the south and even wrestled briefly as a top face in Memphis.

4. Buck Zumhofe: You guys knew this, although I had no idea that someone posted a thread about his crime earlier yestreday. His career highlights were mid card work in World Class and AWA. He was a, upper mid card name throughout his career, but never really made it to main events. Near the end he went to the WWF to do jobs and ended up being HHH's first opponent and the first body bag victim of Undertaker. Nicknamed "Rock N Roll" Buck Zumhofe he often carried a boom box to the ring.

5. Rip Rogers: You guys knew him too, alhough the "Hustler" traveled a lot and was a pretty noteworthy territory worker.

6. Jonathon Boyd: Famous in two tag teams: First the Royal Kangeroos where he and Frederick Charles were a significant tag team of the 70's. ECW press called them one of the greatest tag teams ever in their book the tag teams (a must read for fans of wrestling history). His second tag run was as the third Sheepherder, would work with Luke while Butch would go back to New Zeland for stretches, then when Butch returned he would manage. Also formed a competley different Sheepherder team with Rip Morgan and fueded with the Fabulous Ones. He also fueded with Jeff Jarrett.

7. Bugsy McGraw: Crazy big man who worked lots in Texas and in Florida, usually a heel fueded with Dusty Rhodes, but towards the end of his career worked as a comedic big man. Very charismatic. Always loved him. Briefly appeared as head of security for Mick Foley in TNA.

8. Teijo Kahn: Big man who worked the territories as a tag partner of the Barbarian, and was one of Paul Jones charges, and as a single. Fueded with Sgt Slaughter and Baron Von Rashcke in AWA. Had a crazy good look. Had a part in Body Slam the movie.

9. Bobby Fulton: Jupiter nailed this

10. Dean Ho: Tag team specialist in the WWF, with a Dean Ho gimmick.

11. Man Mountain Link: Superheaveyweight who worked the southern territories, involved in the Kauffman v Lawler fued. Left to run his own promotion as a hardcore specialist

12. Mr Olympia: One of the biggest names in the Continintal and Deep South promotions. Worked with the mask mainly (also as the Matador) but also worked as Jerry Stubbs without it. In Mid South he teamed with JYD. Teamed and fueded off and on with Bullet Bob Armstrong. Was one of Arn Anderson's early tag partners as Arn wrestled as Super Olympia, they also fueded eventually. A quarter of a century ago he was one of the biggest names in the territores.

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Would like to see this continue. Jupiter Jack the ball is your court. We can let it die if you guys want to.
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