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post #11 of 44 (permalink) Old 07-04-2009, 05:01 PM
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Re: Fallout: TG Tournament Match - invincible vs. gmkhercules vs. Austin101

This is how I feel, I'm not going to pretend any diffent.

By the way, I have won. I don't mean any disrespect by this post but would rather state how I feel that a no-show.
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post #12 of 44 (permalink) Old 07-04-2009, 09:39 PM
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Re: Fallout: TG Tournament Match - invincible vs. gmkhercules vs. Austin101

bro the point of a debate isn't to state your personal opinion it's to debate the topic you're given in a convincing fashion

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Re: Fallout: TG Tournament Match - invincible vs. gmkhercules vs. Austin101

Austin if you feel so strongly about it, then put it into a debate. Argue why HIAC should remain and why there's no need to replace the match. Sure it's random and not 100% on topic, but if you actually put some effort in, it might work.

Doing what you did is just a slap in the face to everyone that puts time and effort into this.

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Re: Fallout: TG Tournament Match - invincible vs. gmkhercules vs. Austin101

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Austin if you feel so strongly about it, then put it into a debate. Argue why HIAC should remain and why there's no need to replace the match. Sure it's random and not 100% on topic, but if you actually put some effort in, it might work.

Doing what you did is just a slap in the face to everyone that puts time and effort into this.

If you want to percieve it that way, fine. I have consistently been the first one to post a debate time and time again, go ahead and look. Don't tell me how what I did was a slap in the face to the people who run this, because you're completely blowing it out of the water with that statement. As of right now, I am actually winning I'd think...

Still, no disrespect.

I apologize, even in the light of a negative rep frenzy

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Re: Fallout: TG Tournament Match - invincible vs. gmkhercules vs. Austin101

Winning what? You have no debate.

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Re: Fallout: TG Tournament Match - invincible vs. gmkhercules vs. Austin101

cliff notes; idiot w/ no creativity/balls/writing ability backs out of debate

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Re: Fallout: TG Tournament Match - invincible vs. gmkhercules vs. Austin101

Epic. Epic failure.

You could at least put an argument forward when you talking about not having the need to replace HIAC.



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Re: Fallout: TG Tournament Match - invincible vs. gmkhercules vs. Austin101

I like Austin101's debate.

Anyhow, I'm choosing to go against the topic. Hell in a Cell is a gimmick that was born out of the Shawn Michaels|Undertaker feud. A story of a brash, arrogant young prick trying to escape his fate set on him by the darkest force in WWE history. Since then the match type has evolved. Mankind and the Undertaker made it legendary with the spots they pulled off. Brock and Taker, Batista and Triple H etc. made it of brilliant quality. Triple H and Foley, Edge & Taker together made it the ultimate feud ender in the biggest wrestling company in the world.

The WWE creative itself has tried to replace the Hell in a Cell on many occasions. As a more creative and original, yet more brutal spin-off of the steel cage match, the Hell in a Cell wasn't too hard to replace in theory.

The Elimination Chamber was one such attempt. With the story of Eric Bichoff wanting to top Stephanie's HIAC masterpiece the PPV prior, the Elim. Chamber produced a quality match the first time around but it couldn't top the aura and the grandeur that the HIAC had come to acquire throughout the years. The Elimination Chamber stayed as an alternative to the HIAC but it did not become the feud ender that the HIAC was. They even tried making it extreme to make it more like the Cell but that ended up ruining what the Chamber had going for it, in the first place.

I despised the idea of having a HIAC PPV like the Chamber PPV (No Way Out) because the match type is not meant to be used like that.

Then in 2006, they brought in the Punjabi Prison, a match type similar to the triple cage except there was only two of them. And they were made of bamboos

It ended up being a masterpiece of a failure. They made up for it at No Mercy the very next year but the attempt to replace the Cell had been futile.

I could create a million match types to replace the Cell and in theory, it might sound wonderful but nothing the company implements now can replace all the memories that the Hell in a Cell gimmick has created. Thus, recommending something faulty for the only wrestling company that I still follow wouldn't be ideal for my tastes.

The fact that they had two HIAC matches on RAW tells me that they didn't grasp the importance of the match type until very later on and now it seems they've lost it again but soon they'll revert back to the feud ender form because that's the only way the HIAC is meant to be used. There are exceptions but not twice every single year. ;D

Hell in a Cell is the most important gimmick match that the WWE has come up with in terms of quality, brutality and drawing ability. It can't be replaced now and doing so would be absolutely foolish.

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Re: Fallout: TG Tournament Match - invincible vs. gmkhercules vs. Austin101

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Winning what? You have no debate.
Uh what?

Just because mine was small doesen't mean it wasn't an opinion.

I stated my case, if you think it sucks, so be it, but I still stated my case. The last time I checked there was no rules on how short or long a debate could be. Read it again if you have too. I'm done being nice now, since some people clearly can't comprehend what a debate is and what it isn't.
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Re: Fallout: TG Tournament Match - invincible vs. gmkhercules vs. Austin101

It's common sense Austin. A debate has an opening statement, arguments and a conclusion. Typing up 5 lines of an opinion and calling it a debate doesn't make it a debate.

But if what you posted initially is what you're submitting as your debate, then so be it. I don't like arguing with ignorant people so I'm done with you.

gmk, it's just yours left to post for this topic mate.

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