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Old 04-01-2009, 01:39 PM   #171 (permalink)
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Old 04-01-2009, 01:48 PM   #172 (permalink)
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Completely laughable.

Yes, obviously wrestling is a business, about drawing money. But 99.9 % of wrestlers dont go through that hell for money. There are a million better paths to take if they are simply chasing a career. Ask any wrestler why they got into the business, and they will usually say they were inspired to take up wrestling due to their love of the business growing up, and becoming fascinated by the mechanics of wrestling etc.
Where did I say the wrestlers don't have love for the business? In fact, that's EXACTLY what I said in my last post, in that John Cena, the biggest wrestling draw on the planet, has an obvious passion for the business and is also the hardest working wrestler out there.

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How dare anyone tell anyone else what they should or not find thought-provoking? What the fuck is that? Some people find modern jazz the most amazing thing on the planet. Do i? No, but i accept that it may be possible to view it as such. Wrestling is the art of telling a story in a ring, and the two (or whatever number) wrestlers are the artists. Some people have simpler minds than others, some people understand wrestling better, and therefore say an roh or puro style will appeal to a clique of people instead of a majority.
So what you're basically saying here is that only people with "simpler minds" watch the WWE, whereas smarter people watch ROH? Don't be such an elitist.

I didn't deny wrestling was an art form either, that's exactly what it is. It just isn't a sport. The job of wrestlers is to entertain the fans and consequently draw in money. That's why John Cena is the most successful wrestler around.

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Wwe keeps things simple, because they unlike much of wrestling today IS about making money, and they do everything possible to keep the dollars flowing. This doesnt mean that its not possible to enjoy a more complex, intricate version of wrestling and find it thought provoking (even though a lot of people wouldnt understand on first viewing, it takes time, like learning a language).
Again, I never said that wasn't possible. Obviously people have different tastes. That's the whole point, those 'intricate, complex' wrestlers draw you in because of that style. They get you to watch, pay for the shows and the merchandise, etc... So it's still a business, just on a much lower and less successful level.

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Sports don't have to be competitive. There are such things as performance sports.

Professional wrestling is a non-competitive professional sport, where matches are prearranged by the promotion's booking staff, and is also considered an athletic performing art, containing strong elements of catch wrestling, mock combat and theatre.

We could also have this debate about movies. The movies that make the most money aren't the best movies out there. The independent movies, made by artistic filmmakers are the best movies out there. They just don't have the budget to be distributed to every movie theater or to be advertised on television 24/7.
Performance Sports? Please.

We could have that debate about movies, and the logic would still be the same. The films that make the most money (and to a lesser extent, win awards) are the most successful - just like wrestlers.

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The WWE focuses on segments and promos much more so than wrestling on its own to entertain, whereas the Indies (I don't watch a lot of Indy work, so please forgive my generalization/ignorance) tend to do the opposite. Both are seeking to entertain the observer, but elect to do so through different means. All wrestling is business seeking to make a profit; however, that doesn't mean there aren't people who do what they do because they love the business - and that goes for both sides. Basically, what I mean to say is that both sides rely on elements of sports entertainment and professional wrestling to engage viewers, but the balance differs immensely on each side.
Precisely. This pretty much summarizes what I think.
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Can both not be classed as wrestling/entertainment?

The WWE focuses on segments and promos much more so than wrestling on its own to entertain, whereas the Indies (I don't watch a lot of Indy work, so please forgive my generalization/ignorance) tend to do the opposite. Both are seeking to entertain the observer, but elect to do so through different means. All wrestling is business seeking to make a profit; however, that doesn't mean there aren't people who do what they do because they love the business - and that goes for both sides. Basically, what I mean to say is that both sides rely on elements of sports entertainment and professional wrestling to engage viewers, but the balance differs immensely on each side.
Peace-maker. End of debate.

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We could have that debate about movies, and the logic would still be the same. The films that make the most money (and to a lesser extent, win awards) are the most successful - just like wrestlers.
You're using the word "successful", I'm talking about quality, not success. Yes, Cenaa is the most "successful" wrestler at the moment, yes the movies that make the most money are the most "successful". Are they the best in quality? No, but they are the most successful. Success doesn't always go hand-in-hand with quality.

Also, the movies that win the awards aren't the movies that make the most money.

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My post was basically aimed at brian, since he claimed its impossible to view wrestling as an art form. I just picked on you as a person to quote.
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Wrestling section would be better if if wasn't full of 15 year old kids starting "What is your favorite _________ of all time????!!!!!!111" threads.

I'm a little sick of the young kids who seem to know everything about the attitude era too. The 16 year old kids that reminisce about 'the good old days' back in 1999 are ridiculous. How old were they at the time, about 5 or 6? Just because you've bought some WWE DVD release with a match from 1999, doesn't mean you know all about wrestling at the time.

Fuck, I agree with this 100%.

I hate when some idiot kid is telling me how John Cena is better than *insert classic wrestler* when they know jack shit about classic wrestling but assume Cena is better just because the earlier wrestlers are old now. They go on and on too about how great of a wrestler Hogan was in the 80's but they weren't even fucking born.

On top of that, they make gay comments about the legends match like "I don't want to watch Jericho wrestle some old farts" but those guys fucking own Jericho, no matter how old they are.

Kids these days just don't know anything about great wrestling. They missed out on classic wrestling and act like they know everything about it. Unless they were alive to watch classic wrestling LIVE ON TV, they need to shut the fuck up and accept that they were born in a shitty year where they missed guys like Hogan at his best.
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You're using the word "successful", I'm talking about quality, not success. Yes, Cenaa is the most "successful" wrestler at the moment, yes the movies that make the most money are the most "successful". Are they the best in quality? No, but they are the most successful. Success doesn't always go hand-in-hand with quality.

Also, the movies that win the awards aren't the movies that make the most money.
I know. 'Success' is factual, whereas 'The Best' is just an opinion.
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Another great example of a fucking stupid thread. Do you REALLY think he's gonna read your birthday wishes?



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You think that's bad?

I challenge anyone to top this:

http://www.wrestlingforum.com/blogs/cenafan3000/1996-my-letter-wwe.html
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You think that's bad?

I challenge anyone to top this:

http://www.wrestlingforum.com/blog.php?b=1996
To be fair. cenaboy3000 is retarded as hell.
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You think that's bad?

I challenge anyone to top this:

http://www.wrestlingforum.com/blog.php?b=1996
How 'bout this?

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i will not wish him a happy birthday, after all the things hes done over the last few weeks like ddt innocent stephanie and beat up triple h with a sledgehammer he doesnt deserve a happy birthday. He better enjoy this birthday because it could be his last because I hope triple h destroys him at wrestlemania
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