Yes, obviously wrestling is a business, about drawing money. But 99.9 % of wrestlers dont go through that hell for money. There are a million better paths to take if they are simply chasing a career. Ask any wrestler why they got into the business, and they will usually say they were inspired to take up wrestling due to their love of the business growing up, and becoming fascinated by the mechanics of wrestling etc.
Where did I say the wrestlers don't have love for the business? In fact, that's EXACTLY what I said in my last post, in that John Cena, the biggest wrestling draw on the planet, has an obvious passion for the business and is also the hardest working wrestler out there.
Originally Posted by Smark
How dare anyone tell anyone else what they should or not find thought-provoking? What the fuck is that? Some people find modern jazz the most amazing thing on the planet. Do i? No, but i accept that it may be possible to view it as such. Wrestling is the art of telling a story in a ring, and the two (or whatever number) wrestlers are the artists. Some people have simpler minds than others, some people understand wrestling better, and therefore say an roh or puro style will appeal to a clique of people instead of a majority.
So what you're basically saying here is that only people with "simpler minds" watch the WWE, whereas smarter people watch ROH? Don't be such an elitist.
I didn't deny wrestling was an art form either, that's exactly what it is. It just isn't a sport. The job of wrestlers is to entertain the fans and consequently draw in money. That's why John Cena is the most successful wrestler around.
Wwe keeps things simple, because they unlike much of wrestling today IS about making money, and they do everything possible to keep the dollars flowing. This doesnt mean that its not possible to enjoy a more complex, intricate version of wrestling and find it thought provoking (even though a lot of people wouldnt understand on first viewing, it takes time, like learning a language).
Again, I never said that wasn't possible. Obviously people have different tastes. That's the whole point, those 'intricate, complex' wrestlers draw you in because of that style. They get you to watch, pay for the shows and the merchandise, etc... So it's still a business, just on a much lower and less successful level.
Sports don't have to be competitive. There are such things as performance sports.
Professional wrestling is a non-competitive professional sport, where matches are prearranged by the promotion's booking staff, and is also considered an athletic performing art, containing strong elements of catch wrestling, mock combat and theatre.
We could also have this debate about movies. The movies that make the most money aren't the best movies out there. The independent movies, made by artistic filmmakers are the best movies out there. They just don't have the budget to be distributed to every movie theater or to be advertised on television 24/7.
Performance Sports? Please.
We could have that debate about movies, and the logic would still be the same. The films that make the most money (and to a lesser extent, win awards) are the most successful - just like wrestlers.
The WWE focuses on segments and promos much more so than wrestling on its own to entertain, whereas the Indies (I don't watch a lot of Indy work, so please forgive my generalization/ignorance) tend to do the opposite. Both are seeking to entertain the observer, but elect to do so through different means. All wrestling is business seeking to make a profit; however, that doesn't mean there aren't people who do what they do because they love the business - and that goes for both sides. Basically, what I mean to say is that both sides rely on elements of sports entertainment and professional wrestling to engage viewers, but the balance differs immensely on each side.
Precisely. This pretty much summarizes what I think.