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Old 01-22-2008, 06:15 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'd actually spend the time to use logic to rip this argument to shreds, but I think Otacon's post said it all.
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Old 01-22-2008, 06:19 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I was about to respond again when I saw Mac's post and agreed immediately...thanks for saving me time Mac, haha.
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

I can't speak for Obama but I never knew you have to place your hand over your heart during the anthem until recently. It was probably mentioned during my time in school but nobody ever said anything about it there after. Rather weird considering my high school had a ROTC program and they had strict rules everyone had to adhere to (absolutely no headwear etc). It's not the first time school has let me down. It was until the 8th grade that I knew (and was corrected with) the words of the Pledge of Allegiance started as "I pledge allegiance" not "I pledge of allegiance."
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Obama turning away from your guys' flag?! If my eyes aren't deceiving me, he's about as turned around as Hilary and that other lady. Plus, the other guy's even more turned around and as his whole back to the Flag?!

Now, I know my country has sent troops over to Irak/Afghanistan (bad idea imo), but, this is no war... Bush sent troops to Irak with a "missile" loophole so he could control the flow of oil coming from the Middle East to North America. Hmm, guess that does explain why the Oil Companies are making so much money by having the price of Gas rise almost each week...

Anyhow, I think it's utter Bullcrap to say Obama doesn't have "experience". Hell, when I first heard he was going to run for Democratic Leader, I did my research on him, just because I wanted to know where the all hype was coming from. Thinking Hilary would be winning the thing without a worry in the world. This guy's been figthing all sorts of battles for people all over the States, from factory workers to whatever, he maybe doesn't have experience running a campaing and trying to "lie" is way into a leadership position (which is something every president of every country always does), but he sure has the guts and will power to try and get your Country back on track after Bush soiled the USA with his time in power (which was mostly spent acting like a fool and getting ridiculed in every which way possible... yeah, not by SNL or MADTV, by some real live shit he did on TV, himself!)

I mean, I can understand you're a Republican and probably don't want a Democrate to be your next President... but, the reason why the USA are in such bad shape right now is that (and, well, to be honest, my own province and country) people see their partys as one way ticket to truth... not understanding and trying to better ourselves as a community, town, village, state or country! No, it's, who's got the best fucking lying speech that'll win. Oh, he's from the South, let me vote for him good golly! Ohh, doesn't he look damper with that nice haircut, he gets my vote! That 1.4 billion dollars Bush wants to take out of the taxes should be put in some sort of economic plan like is predecessors have done, into, public projects to build/revamp roads, schools, hospitals, etc., and have people on welfare working and helping the USA's economical situation stabilize itself and then find the upwards state once more.

All in all, I believe that politicians in general shouldn't try to bitch each other to death, but, try and build programs and put them to work. Not trying to sell each other in a popularity contest... Worst case scenario, McCain gets elected... For the rest, whether they're red or blue, it's all about what you do when you've got the power. (Who cares if you slept with that young intern of if you're a rumoured Muslim or if you don't put your hand on your heart for a song, patriotism is not going to build and help a country, action and (lol) change is going to do so, (and that goes for your Country and mine, well, my country and my province (God, we do make things complicated for ourselves here in Canada don't we!)

(p.s. One last thing, it is hard to take your arguments seriously when one, you make quite a lot of spelling and grammar mistakes in talking about politics (especially that) and two, when I hear the argument socialist & jihadist, I believe i'm still in the middle of the cold war and that I should fear Russians & Communism! And well, to be even more blunt, I feel like I'm reading about the Segregation War all over again, I mean, aren't you guys ever going to accept these human beings as human beings or are you too blind to see that while most caucasians in the States & in Canada are on their asses, at home, or appearing on Dr. Phil, on Welfare, immigrants that arrived in either country with no money to find a place to live work ten times as hard and help the country that accepted them the best they can, and now that Obama's running for President he's getting bashed by people (in this instance, you) with stupid arguments that don't even judge him on the fact that maybe or maybe not, he could be a great leader for his party and or a role of leadership as President of the United States... God, I love your country and the people I've met over there over the years, but, when it comes to politics, some of you have fallen the horse a bit too much)
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I'd actually spend the time to use logic to rip this argument to shreds, but I think Otacon's post said it all.
Probably good you didn't. I would rip your ignorance to shreds. The picture says all. Quit being a bandwagon, ignorant, liberal who thinks republicans are evil. The picture says all. Our president needs to be hardcore American. The picture shows he is a piece of twat shit.

I see a change, we need a black rpesident. If you don't vote black you're redneck. Those are basically Obama's bullshit running quotes. But hey he won a chanc ein the senate right. Oh yea the other guy dropped out.


Lets just throw out his jihadist teaching, his middle name being Hussein thanks to his anti-american father (and step-father), and the fact he doesn't salute our flag. Forget he pledge on the Koran instead of a bible (remember this election he claims he is christian.) Bullshit.
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Where is this magical plan that the democrats have that will get us out of Iraq? The democrats are lying. they have no idea how to get out of Iraq without crippling an already pretty much crippled Iraqi economy. McCain is just a realist and realizes that there is no way he can get the US out of Iraq qucikly, so he doesn't say nonsensical things like "When I am voted President, I will take the troops out of Iraq immediately." It just is not possible to solve the problem quickly, and people need to realize it.
McCain is a realist; you're right. But Iraq is on the verge of civil war, there are bombings daily, the government has made no attempts at restoring order. The way I see it, a realist idea would be that Iraq will never have peace. This people have been fighting for hundreds of years; whether we wait one year or one hundred years, as soon as we leave, Iraq will soon crumble.
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To the guy saying everyone is turned away. Look at him. How dishonorable.
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That's how you respond to being proven wrong by your own post?

Dats sum funni shit yo.
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I guess we're ignoring Ill Will's post w/ pictures of Obama with his hand over his heart?

Mkay then.
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Is he being serious?
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