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Old 06-16-2006, 08:21 AM   #151 (permalink)
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But in reality does that kind of stereotype exist? Doesn't the woman have a "normal" job (I know - working at home is a job too).
She said it's the old stereotype. It's not the case anymore, the economy's too weak for women to stay at home while men work. Plus there's that whole "women's rights" bullshit.

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Old 06-16-2006, 08:29 AM   #152 (permalink)
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My mom is a stay at home mom, for 4 kiddies
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Old 06-16-2006, 08:32 AM   #153 (permalink)
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She said it's the old stereotype. It's not the case anymore, the economy's too weak for women to stay at home while men work. Plus there's that whole "women's rights" bullshit.



The adrenaline rush you get in a fight is one of the greatest things in the world, on the same level as sex and sleeping.
Actually, it doesn't say old anywhere. A stereotype behaviour can also relate to the present time. That's how I read it.

But you're right. A family of four will have a hard time economically if only the adult male member of the family brings home the money.

Adrenaline rush? Yeah I got that a few times. But you can also get an adrenaline rush out of fear. Violence shouldn't be considered a "fun" thing.

I think we all agree that violence in genereal is wrong. We even have laws to forbid that.
But as far as I'm concerned it doesn't say that women have special rights when it comes to violence. Therefore it is an "unwritten law" in some places, MOST places actually.

So I guess it's a way of how you live with these unwritten laws, or more precisely, how you're brought up.

I just don't like that some people, directly or indirectly, actually think it's okay for a female to hit a male but not the other way around.
They might think otherwise but it SOUNDS like it.

Why isn't she a disgusting pig for nailing a guy in the nuts, for instance? She is. Of course she is. Violence is disgusting so SHE must be disgusting for violently assaulting me. She's actually EVEN more disgusting because she strikes where I'm the most vulnerable... and she KNOWS it

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My mom is a stay at home mom, for 4 kiddies
And she deserves respect for that. Just remember that you shoild also respect your father for working hard to provide the entire family. But I'm sure that you do that
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Old 06-16-2006, 08:35 AM   #154 (permalink)
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Well, its not like our parents are saying, "Okay, Chelsey, you can hit a man whenever you want.. its okay!" But, its NOT okay for a man to hit a woman, ever.

Its an old, and new stereotype.

Its just that a man can't hit a woman, simple as that. And if you do, your reputation is scarred, for life.
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Old 06-16-2006, 08:38 AM   #155 (permalink)
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Well, its not like our parents are saying, "Okay, Chelsey, you can hit a man whenever you want.. its okay!" But, its NOT okay for a man to hit a woman, ever.

Its an old, and new stereotype.

Its just that a man can't hit a woman, simple as that. And if you do, your reputation is scarred, for life.
I edited my post before this, just for you.

I just don't think it quite as simple if there isn't really any answer
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It's a lose-lose situation. If you hit a girl, you get a called a pussy. If you let her beat you up, you get called a pussy. Basically, the only you can do to save face is walk away.
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I edited my post before this, just for you.

I just don't think it quite as simple if there isn't really any answer
Oh, of course I respect my father. I hardly ever see him, because he works 3 jobs [2 of them are bodyguarding jobs at Disney Land, and with a guy named Tony Robbins, they are all around the country.. anyways]

Yeah, I wouldn't be so fortunate if it wasn't for my dad. I'm pretty spoiled, in a way... I get alot of things that I don't neccesarily deserve [Like a new computer, coming to my house in a few months!!!]

But, its the same way with my mom; I wouldn't have clean clothes, good food, and a clean house if it wasn't for her.

And, I honestly have to REAL answer, because.. its not really known. Like Deaner said before, you learn to count, say your abc's, and then you learn not to hit women. Thats so true, the guys really do learn that at a young age.
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Old 06-16-2006, 08:56 AM   #158 (permalink)
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...And, I honestly have to REAL answer, because.. its not really known. Like Deaner said before, you learn to count, say your abc's, and then you learn not to hit women. Thats so true, the guys really do learn that at a young age.
And I totally understand that.
But all of the sudden in a certain age, you have to face what you've learned at a young age and either stick with it or perhaps question your parents about whether this or that really was the right thing or not.

As an example my parents had one political point of view and so did I. But then I moved out the house and wondered... "hmm is this political side I'm on now really what I believe in"... and it wasn't. Now I'm on the opposite side of the road as far as politics go.

I'm sure that you want to stand on your own two feet in a couple of years.
That means that you have to learn how to clean your clothes yourself, either from your mother or perhaps by hard for example.

If you stick with what you believe in, I'm sure that you will teach your sons exactly what your brothers have been told. It's not wrong as such, but I think it'll be a better way to teach about MUTUAL respect. rather than the one side deserves more respect than the other
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Where I come from you never lay your hands on a women and thats the way I have been brought up. I would never hit a women because where I live you will get more respect from not retaliating and hitting a women than you would by hitting her.
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Yeah, that may be true for your area, but in the southern United States, NO MAN LAYS A HAND ON A WOMAN. Its like, a rule.
And that rule should be broken when a woman decides she's going to try to assault a man.

There's nothing wrong with being agressive to a woman IF she attempts something on you first. If you just go around hitting a woman for the fun of it, then you're human garbage, plain and simple, but if they want a fight, knock their damn lights out. Fair game.
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