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Flux 04-01-2013 10:29 AM

Failure Defeats Losers, Failure Inspires Winners
Failure Defeats Losers, Failure Inspires Winners

Monday Night Raw


General Manager: Eric Bischoff
Commentators: Jim Ross and Jerry "The King" Lawler
Ring Announcer: Lillian Garcia
Backstage Interviewers: Jonathan Coachman and Todd Grisham

World Heavyweight Champion: Chris Benoit
WWE Intercontinental Champion: Randy Orton
World Tag Team Champions: Rob Van Dam and Booker T
WWE Women's Champion: Victoria

Male Roster
Al Snow
Bill Goldberg
Booker T
Bubba Ray Dudley
Chris Benoit
Chris Jericho

Christopher Nowinski

D-Von Dudley
Garrison Cade
Lance Storm
Mark Henry
Mark Jindrak
Matt Hardy

Mick Foley

Randy Orton
Rene Dupree
Ric Flair

Rob Van Dam
Rodney Mack
Scott Steiner
Shawn Michaels
Spike Dudley

Steven Richards
Steve Austin ~ Non-wrestling role
Sylvan Grenier
The Hurricane
Theodore Long ~ Manager
The Rock ~ Part time appearances
Tommy Dreamer
Triple H
Val Venis

Female Roster
Gail Kim
Molly Holly
Stacy Keibler

Trish Stratus

Tag Teams, Stables and Alliances
Christian and Trish Stratus
The Dudley Boyz - Bubba Ray Dudley and D-Von Dudley
Evolution - Triple H, Randy Orton, Batista and Ric Flair
Garrison Cade and Mark Jindrak
La Resistance - Rene Dupree, Sylvain Grenier and Rob Conway

Rob Van Dam and Booker T
The Superheroes - The Hurricane and Rosey

Thuggin' n' Buggin' Enterprises - Mark Henry, Rodney Mack, Jazz and Theodore Long


Thursday Night Smackdown

General Manager: Paul Heyman
Commentators: Michael Cole and Tazz
Ring Announcer: Tony Chimel
Backstage Interviewers: Josh Matthews and Kevin Kelly

WWE Champion: Eddie Guerrero
WWE United States Champion: John Cena
WWE Tag Team Champions: Rikishi and Scotty-2-Hotty
WWE Cruiserweight Champion: Chavo Guerrero

Male Roster
A Train
Big Show

Billy Gunn
Billy Kidman

Brock Lesnar
Charlie Haas
Chavo Guerrero
Chuck Palumbo
Danny Basham
Doug Basham

Eddie Guerrero

Hardcore Holly
Jamie Noble
John Cena
Johnny Stamboli
Kurt Angle
Matt Morgan

Paul London
Rey Mysterio

Ron Simmons

Scotty Too Hotty
Sean O’Haire ~ Inactive
Shannon Moore
Shelton Benjamin
Ultimo Dragon
Undertaker ~ Inactive ~ Buried Alive at Survivor Series

Female Roster
Dawn Marie

Torrie Wilson

Tag Teams, Stables and Alliances
The APA - Bradshaw and Ron Simmons
The Basham Brothers - Danny Basham and Doug Basham w/ Shaniqua
The FBI - Nunzio, Johnny Stamboli and Chuck Palumbo
Tajiri, Akio and Sakoda

Too Cool - Rikishi and Scotty Too Hotty
The World's Greatest Tag Team - Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin


World Heavyweight Championship

Chris Benoit
March 14, 2004 - ???

WWE Intercontinental Champion

Randy Orton
December 14, 2003 - ???

WWE Women's Championship
February 23, 2004 - ???

World Tag Team Championships

Rob Van Dam and Booker T
February 16, 2004 - ???


WWE Championship

Eddie Guerrero
February 15, 2004 - ???

WWE United States Championship

John Cena
March 14, 2004 - ???

WWE Cruiserweight Championship

Chavo Guerrero
February 15, 2004 - ???

WWE Tag Team Championships

Rikishi and Scotty Too Hotty
February 3, 2004 - ???


Upcoming PPV Schedule
Backlash | April 18, 2004 | Edmonton, Alberta
Judgement Day | May 16, 2004 | Los Angeles, California
Bad Blood | June 13, 2004 | Columbus, Ohio
The Great American Bash | July 4, 2004 | Norfolk, Virginia
Vengeance | July 25, 2004 | Hartford, Connecticut
Summerslam | August 29, 2004 | Toronto, Ontario



Originally Posted by Wrestlemania 20 Results

  • John Cena defeated Big Show to become the NEW WWE United States Champion
  • Booker T and Rob Van Dam defeated Garrison Cade and Mark Jindrak, The Dudley Boys and La Resistance to RETAIN the World Tag Team Championships
  • Christian defeated Chris Jericho
  • Evolution defeated The Rock n' Sock Connection
  • Torrie Wilson and Sable defeated Miss Jackie and Stacy Keibler
  • Chavo Guerrero defeated Ultimo Dragon, Rey Mysterio, Tajiri, Shannon Moore, Funaki, Nunzio, Billy Kidman, Jamie Noble and Akio to reatin the WWE Cruiserweight Championship
  • Goldberg defeated Brock Lesnar
  • Too Cool defeated The World's Greatest Tag Team, The APA and The Basham Brothers to retain the WWE Tag Team Championships
  • Victoria defeated Molly Holly to retain the WWE Women's Championship
  • Eddie Guerrero defeated Kurt Angle to retain the WWE Championship
  • Chris Benoit defeated Triple H and Shawn Michaels to become the NEW World Heavyweight Champion


Originally Posted by Personal note

Listen to this whilst reading. 8*D

So yeah, welcome. I've taken some time away, even if it is just a few months, to recharge my batteries whatnot, and I've decided to come back with a thread based on my favourite time period in wrestling history. I have put a fair bit of time in planning this and getting ahead of myself, but other than that, I don't have a clue where this may or may not go. It may last a week, it may last a decade - I'm not even going to try and say.

For those of you that don't know me all that well, I am a huge fan of independent wrestling, Puro and Lucha, so don't be completely surprised if I do bring in outside talent. In fact, I plan on doing so for the sole reason that I want to have fun with this and using characters and wrestlers that I enjoy watching will help me do so. So realism won't exactly be a big thing in this, but hopefully I don't become that unrealistic to the point where it is off-putting for you, the readers.

In terms of "in the thread", the first show will be the Raw following Wrestlemania 20. All the results remain the same other than one. I've said it several times, but as much as I love The Undertaker as a wrestler, as a gimmick and as a performer, I absolutely hate booking him as "The Deadman". In case you don't know the time period, at Survivor Series 2003, Vince McMahon buried The Undertaker (who was then performing under the American Badass gimmick) with the help of Kane. 'Taker would then return at Wrestlemania after months of teases and vignettes as The Deadman, to defeat his brother. I am removing that match from my Wrestlemania card. So as it stands, The Undertaker has not returned and has not been seen since Survivor Series 2003, and Kane has been doing very little as of late in terms of actual feuds, other than winning the traditional Wrestlemania pre-show Battle Royal to win absolutely nothing.

Also, heading in to Wrestlemania, it was well known Brock Lesnar and Goldberg (who faced off at the event) would be making their last appearances in the WWE. In this thread, consider this true. Both men's issues will be addressed in storyline. I shall say no more.

Hate. Appreciate. Do what you want. Raw preview and a few tidbits to be up soon, maybe.

TheeJayBee 04-01-2013 10:43 AM

Re: Failure Defeats Losers, Failure Inspires Winners
Interesting time to right for. Both brands could have done with a little more firepower at this time, particularly with Lesnar and Goldberg on their way out, so it will be interesting to see how you 'address those issues', as you put it. Good luck, I'll be reading (Y)

That Guy 04-01-2013 10:48 AM

Re: Failure Defeats Losers, Failure Inspires Winners
Very much love this time period as well as your writing, so I've been excited for a while with all the posts you've had in the advertisement thread.

Best of luck in this, will be keeping a close eye on it.

ThatWeirdGuy 04-01-2013 11:14 AM

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Good luck with this man, I know how much you love this time period so I know that you are going to have fun with this. Will keep an eye on this fo' sho'

Baldwin. 04-01-2013 11:47 AM

Re: Failure Defeats Losers, Failure Inspires Winners
I'm not going to write a paragraph for this, you know I want you to stick to something so all I'll say is - STICK TO IT MF'ER!


TKOW 04-01-2013 11:53 AM

Re: Failure Defeats Losers, Failure Inspires Winners
Not much to comment on since things are looking pretty standard thus far, but there should be more to say once your first show is posted. I'm curious to see how you're going to bring Undertaker back "from the dead", but without his Deadman gimmick.


Also, Edge wasn't a Raw superstar until the draft lottery, and he wasn't a tweener, he was a babyface. So, you may have given away that he's going to turn heel upon his return. Anyway, good luck, I'll keep an eye on this. As Stojy has just brought back his 2004 thread, I'll be looking to see if you book things any differently to him.

The Cult 04-01-2013 11:58 AM

Re: Failure Defeats Losers, Failure Inspires Winners
I don't know how much we've discussed this thing in the past few months, I know you're pumped about this time period! Feel you've got the talent, just make sure you stick with this! Let's hope you're better at booking this period than you are at playing 5 a side... :D:

C3K 04-02-2013 09:23 AM

Re: Failure Defeats Losers, Failure Inspires Winners
Good to see you back booking, and booking perhaps my favourite time period. I enjoyed your 2011 thread, so I have no doubts I'll enjoy this too.

Good luck with this BRO! :o

Gaz. 04-03-2013 08:12 AM

Re: Failure Defeats Losers, Failure Inspires Winners
Good to see ya' back Flux, as I've always been a big fan of your work, and this should be no different.

Interesting to see that you are going on without Lesnar and Da' MAN, which already differs you from a majority of threads in the same time period. However, zero marks for no Deadman...:no:

Anyway, best of luck mate, looking forward to the first show! (Y)

LegendofBaseball 04-03-2013 09:01 AM

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Good luck with this new thread of yours. It is indeed a great time for booking, right after WrestleMania 20, and I'll be reading to see what you make of it all. Especially without the Undertaker having returned and the hole filled by Lesnar & Goldberg's departures.

Good luck

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