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Old 01-16-2013, 02:41 PM   #3641 (permalink)
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I don't really care who is or who isn't on the roster. At the end of the day, the wrestlers and characters are just tools in providing an entertaining product and as long as you manage to do that week after week after week, does it really matter who you use?
Kind of.

John Cena vs. Randy Orton would be more interesting to most than say Eugene vs. Colin Delaney. Who remembers that jobber?

But basically I feel what he's trying to say is that you can get so much more out of booking if you use characters that can be used rather than not using them. It's always good to have one or two hurt possibly in a gimmick so that you're not over rostered with big superstars, plus it makes for more story lines. I feel that if you have Mr. Kennedy, Kurt Angle, John Cena, Randy Orton, Kane, Big Show, Edge, The Undertaker, Batista, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair, CM Punk, Brock Lesnar, The Rock, and possibly higher mid carders like MVP, Rey Mysterio, and more then it would just be a better thing to have compared to say two of those. All those guys on one card is really overbooking it though, so when you see some of them gone that is my guess why.
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:56 PM   #3642 (permalink)
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Kind of.

John Cena vs. Randy Orton would be more interesting to most than say Eugene vs. Colin Delaney. Who remembers that jobber?

But basically I feel what he's trying to say is that you can get so much more out of booking if you use characters that can be used rather than not using them. It's always good to have one or two hurt possibly in a gimmick so that you're not over rostered with big superstars, plus it makes for more story lines. I feel that if you have Mr. Kennedy, Kurt Angle, John Cena, Randy Orton, Kane, Big Show, Edge, The Undertaker, Batista, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair, CM Punk, Brock Lesnar, The Rock, and possibly higher mid carders like MVP, Rey Mysterio, and more then it would just be a better thing to have compared to say two of those. All those guys on one card is really overbooking it though, so when you see some of them gone that is my guess why.
I don't completely agree. As good as all of that talent may be, if all of the feuds are similar and there is very little in terms of character development, then I would much rather watch Eugene vs. Colin Delaney. I'd much rather watch compelling characters develop and adapt over the course of time than watch/read the same old guys having the same old feuds. It's not who you use, it's how you use them and how it all contributes to making the show as diverse and as entertaining as possible.

Look at Wolfy's use of Brent Albright and Charlie Haas, DDMac's use of Charlie Haas, Melvis' use of Jack Swagger. Are they on the same level as John Cena, The Undertaker and Ric Flair from a talent standpoint - Probably not, but because they've been used in an interesting and compelling way, with plenty of character development, some could argue that those characters are some of the best in BTB.

A bridge is a bridge - As long as it allows people to get from one side to another safely and efficiently, does it really matter how it's built? That's the best way I can think of simply describing what I'm saying.

Edit: I think I slightly misunderstood what you said, but whatever. I've still offered something to discuss.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:01 PM   #3643 (permalink)
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Hi guys, I've been toying with a new btb and have written a first draft for a WCW show. Yep it's the almost annoyingly same scenario of what if Bischoff with Fudient Media got the company before Vince did. Of course it will be the way I would have likes to have seen it gone. Doing this though do you guys think people would be interested? 1. Because it has been done before and 2. Will anyone remember the wrestlers? Some of the chats with Jam I've had for example shows me that younger guys on this site may not know certain guys. I guess I could do a profile on
The roster which could get readers upto speed. What is everyone's thoughts. Is it a fools
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:11 PM   #3644 (permalink)
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This question again

Don't do something or not do something just because we may or may not like it, do it because you want to. If you're interested in doing a 2001 WCW BTB then do it and do it as well as you can. Just because Tom, Dick and Harry don't know half of the roster, doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. If you're writing quality shows on a regular basis, as well as handing out useful and constructive feedback to others and just generaly staying active within the section, you'll get some yourself. Besides, if you do a good enough job with your promos, matches and character development, it won't take long for the readers to become familiar with the wrestlers anyway.
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Thanks heaps for the feedback. As a noob to the section I wasn't aware this question is brought up a lot, but your answer held me just get on with it as I do want to really try and show my take on this time. Thanks again and hope people give it a read.
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:53 AM   #3646 (permalink)
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I don't really care who is or who isn't on the roster. At the end of the day, the wrestlers and characters are just tools in providing an entertaining product and as long as you manage to do that week after week after week, does it really matter who you use?
I agree, if you can make Colin Delaney vs Eugene an exciting feud, with compelling characters then that's awesome. I love when writers push someone that in real life never got pushed or never would be pushed. All I was saying is you see a lot of guys start a BTB and straight away ignore the time period and release a bunch of guys. So for example WWE 2009, Ted Dibiase gets released (even though he's in Legacy), Drew McIntyre (even though he was being pushed hard), Swagger and Khali (cause he's shit, but he serves a purpose). Then they hire Brock Lesnar (who was with UFC so that's impossible), Christopher Daniels, Roderick Strong and AJ Styles or something. It's too much for me. I get the "if you write entertaining shows then who cares?" notion but the problem is most guys that do stuff like this and ignore the storylines that went on at that moment (ofcourse you can give your own spin and eventually create new ones) don't write entertaining shows 'cause they just hire their favorite wrestlers without thinking of what to do with them.

Trantrum also makes a good point that having too many big names/main eventers isn't good either. TNA somewhat has that problem right now, they are trying to keep Hardy/Aries/Roode/Angle/Sting/Samoa Joe/Anderson/Bully Ray/RVD credible without recycling the same feuds over and over again. Ideally Anderson wouldn't be in TNA anymore, he's just a nuisance right now and unmotivated.
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Whilst it's annoying that the same formula is used over and over again with regards to releasing guys who are 'shit' I can kind of see their point. Sometimes there are characters that I just have no interest in using and it gets pretty hard to write for them and trying to 'reinvent' them can also, at times be quite tedious. Politics with myself.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:32 PM   #3648 (permalink)
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Hey guys, I'm going to start introducing In Your House ppvs for my thread. I can't really think of any good creative names so I'm going to use some ppv names that I like. Some of the ones that I liked are Judgment Day, Badd Blood, Buried Alive and Vengeance. I think they would be a good fit for the time period I'm working on. Can anyone suggest/come up with some creative names?

WWF IN YOUR HOUSE (insert name)
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Here's how I like at it: if you bought out a fed and took over creative, would you keep guys you didn't want around? It's an additional wage to pay and, since you don't want them, you won't use them. Wouldn't it be better to let them go? And, on the other side of things, if you want to sign guys, why not free up money and roster space by letting those guys go?
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Hey guys, I'm going to start introducing In Your House ppvs for my thread. I can't really think of any good creative names so I'm going to use some ppv names that I like. Some of the ones that I liked are Judgment Day, Badd Blood, Buried Alive and Vengeance. I think they would be a good fit for the time period I'm working on. Can anyone suggest/come up with some creative names?

WWF IN YOUR HOUSE (insert name)
The IYH names really were fitting the main storyline going into the PPV event.

For example, the second ever IYH was IYH Lumberjacks which saw Michaels and Nash fight in a Lumberjack match. Rage in the Cage saw a Steel Cage Main Event, Beware of the Dog had British Bulldog make a return etc.

So it's hard to say it really depends on what you are doing storyline wise.
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