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Christian, Rob Van Dam, Ken Kennedy - those seem to be the main ones, particularly Christian.
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Christian, Rob Van Dam, Ken Kennedy - those seem to be the main ones, particularly Christian.
Quite honestly don't see how everyone isn't pushing MVP or Jeff Hardy, seems like they would kind of deserve it a bit more than RVD and Kennedy, mainly Kennedy.

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The logic behind it was probably that at one point, everyone wanted to see Kennedy/Van Dam/Christian as World Champion and decided to go ahead and book it or book a main event push. I don't recall many wanting to see Hardy as World Champ and perhaps that's why many haven't pushed him to the moon, same for MVP.

Don't get me wrong, though. Some of the booking for the Christian's, the Van Dam's and the Kennedy's has been top notch, this isn't me bashing those pushes at all.

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The logic behind it was probably that at one point, everyone wanted to see Kennedy/Van Dam/Christian as World Champion and decided to go ahead and book it or book a main event push. I don't recall many wanting to see Hardy as World Champ and perhaps that's why many haven't pushed him to the moon, same for MVP.

Don't get me wrong, though. Some of the booking for the Christian's, the Can Dam's and the Kennedy's has been top notch, this isn't me bashing those pushes at all.
Oh I'm not trying to bash them either, I'm just saying it'd be good to see something out of the expected/ordinary.

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Really don't get the hype over Christian, I've got to say. The fact the WWE let him go just about says it all. If they really wanted him, they would have avoided him going to TNA at all costs. They only signed him back up because it become possible and they needed someone to bulk up the roster.

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On the topic of pushes, has there ever been anybody to push an independent wrestler pretty high up the cards? Not someone who was an indy star but made it big in the WWE in real life and a booker has tried to emulate that, like CM Punk or Daniel Bryan, but someone they have signed themselves and pushed. The only example I can think of would be Wolfy and Legend with their pushes of Brent Albright, although he was a part of WWE television for a little while as Gunner Scott. I may completely overlooking someone but my mind is drawing a blank, here. I'm just curious to know as a fan of independent wrestling?

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Mac pushed Daniels pretty hard, he was set for a push up the card on Smackdown without a doubt, and it would have been stellar.

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Quite honestly don't see how everyone isn't pushing MVP or Jeff Hardy, seems like they would kind of deserve it a bit more than RVD and Kennedy, mainly Kennedy.
Not saying that MVP isn't underrated or Hardy is overrated, but Christian was underlooked and can be an underdog, Kennedy is an awesome person to write about but I really don't know about RVD, I see him in a lot of world title shots and he won the Royal Rumble in one I think.



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Christian rocks as a babyface in peril and he also rules the world as a dickhead heel. He's pretty much the total package other than his size, and even then that adds to his character as a face or heel so you could even consider his size an advantage. Kennedy, whilst I find him monotonous, repetitive and boring in real life, is decent at best. But I can understand why people like him, due to his smarmy attitude and whatever, so I understand the pushes for him but he's not my cup of tea tbh. Finally, what Rob Van Dam lacks in terms of mic skills, he more than makes up for in his in-ring presence and just little things about him, especially from 05-07. He's just really easy to get behind, has a simple yet dynamic moveset and is just likeable in general. I'd love to see someone pull the trigger on a fully fledged RVD heel run with THE FONZ~! by his side, however.

Was it KOP that pushed MVP to the World/WWE title? I can remember browsing through an older thread that pushed him to the moon. Meanwhile, Jeff Hardy's single best feuds in the WWE were with Matt Hardy, Umaga and CM Punk. His best matches were also with those three and Triple H. The link between those four? All four are much more talented than Jeff. In short, I firmly believe Jeff was carried in the majority of his feuds and matches. My opinion, of course, but I know many people would agree with me and I'm sure there will be people that disagree. DISCUSSION~!

But yeah, I'd love to see some love for other wrestlers. When I was first introduced to the section and Melvis had his old thread, I was drawn in by his use of Swagger and that is probably due to the fact that very few would push him. Wolfy's use of London and Albright, Legend's use of Big Show and TWGTT, KOP's (?) use of MVP... All examples of how pushing "less popular" wrestlers can be great. I'd love to see more of that kind of stuff and I'm sure we will. Finlay pushes, Regal pushes and Mizark pushes plz.


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I was going to do a Regal push in my thread. Funny how that turned out. -_-
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