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Old 11-11-2012, 10:53 AM   #3441 (permalink)
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I'm relatively new to the forum as a whole, and I've decided to do my own thread. I was trying to look at a few threads which are clearly regarded very high by readers here (Legend's 2006 thread, Reney's 2003 thread, Wolfbeasts 'Being the Booker') in order to improve my own writing, but it denies me access, stating that I don't have permission. Has anybody got any ideas how I can read these threads? Would mean a lot, thanks
This has actually happened to me recently, actually. There seems to have been a lot of threads either dumped or something because I've been wanting to access PARA, Alcho's, and KOP's old threads and even Legend's Linen for a while now, but they seem to have disappeared. They don't even show up on search (which, Gaz, you need I think a membership to fully access). If it hasn't been posted in or linked to in a while, it seems to just be gone (although Wolfy's thread should be around if you go back enough pages, I think, but just in case, here it is)

I've even notified an Admin about it, but haven't gotten much of anywhere on that.

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What are your opinions on a booker/writer saying in their thread "WWE is no longer PG blah blah blah, ratings are low, low income, need to renew interest in the industry blah blah blah." The reason i say this is because a lot of ideas I have in my head that I would love to execute in my thread wouldn't exactly cater towards the PG audience, or they would thrive under non-TVPG conditions. However, I don't just want to go the route of what I said before - Just some bullshit WWE press release with Vinny Mac and Linda McMahon saying that they're not longer PG.

How would you personally go about doing it?
Would you be put off or against that simple press release and/or news article in a thread?
Just general thoughts/comments?
I'm totally with you on most of these sentiments. I would, honestly, be put off by something like a press release for something like this. It seems like a really big cop-out to me.

If I had to do it personally, I'd go with a realistic approach. Did the WWE have a press conference when they decided to go PG? No. Not to my knowledge, anyway. It was more of a small press release if anything. Point is, did they just up and say NOW we're gonna blatantly appeal to kids? No, they gradually did things in their programming before formally making the rating turn. So I'd probably do that if I had to. A gradual steering away from 'PG-ness' more towards what you want before at some point maybe make a small news note that the TV grade has changed or something. Plus, it'd be a slow-build on and offscreen scenario, which I would find very interesting. This all being only on point if you're that deeply rooted in realism.

If not, you could just completely ignore the PG thing and do whatever you want since, in theory, it shouldn't apply to us anyway *shrug*.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:14 AM   #3442 (permalink)
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Well you seem to be going for about the same timeline as me and around that point WWE seemed to be moving away from PG abit anyway. So just slowly begin to fade PG out and it should be fine. In other words, don't go from Hornswoggle to a bra & panties match. For my reasoning, I just told the truth, Linda's senate campaign was costing too much and Vince couldn't afford to support a losing campaign. Most realistic? Probably not. But again I'm not going straight to TV-14 but to a strong PG.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:27 PM   #3443 (permalink)
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Cheers 619IDH, I'm glad to know it's not just me. And thanks for the link
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:57 PM   #3444 (permalink)
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:07 AM   #3445 (permalink)
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Alright so i'm thinking of writing full promos instead of recapped ones starting with the first show after my first PPV and I was wondering if anybody had any tips/advice for someone who's not exactly the best promo writer in the world? Also for some people who really have no certain gimmick what are some tips to making promos sound good for them?
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:25 AM   #3446 (permalink)
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Alright so i'm thinking of writing full promos instead of recapped ones starting with the first show after my first PPV and I was wondering if anybody had any tips/advice for someone who's not exactly the best promo writer in the world? Also for some people who really have no certain gimmick what are some tips to making promos sound good for them?
Watch and take notes. Mannerisms are a must as well. Sometimes mannerisms are easier to write than good promo cutters. Give me 2009 Orton over 2000 Rock any day. Pay attention to what some guys repeatedly do, sort of like a match sequence. Using the Orton example again, he repeats certain things when the crowd begins to interupt him with chants. He'll start to talk and then stop when the crowd begins to chant (eg. You suck) then he will continue.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:56 PM   #3447 (permalink)
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Alright so i'm thinking of writing full promos instead of recapped ones starting with the first show after my first PPV and I was wondering if anybody had any tips/advice for someone who's not exactly the best promo writer in the world? Also for some people who really have no certain gimmick what are some tips to making promos sound good for them?
What Coolquip said. Make sure to watch back to the time period that you're based in and then look up stuff for that particular wrestler. Not just mannerisms but the obvious catchphrases and saying that they always like to put in their promos.

As for the wrestlers that have no real gimmick.... I like to see them as if they are just a lump of clay that you can turn into anything you want them to be. If they are really bland and without a catchphrase... give them one. Simple as that really. You need to mould these guys into whatever you want them to be otherwise they will just remain bland and without a character.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:57 PM   #3448 (permalink)
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As for the wrestlers that have no real gimmick.... I like to see them as if they are just a lump of clay that you can turn into anything you want them to be. If they are really bland and without a catchphrase... give them one. Simple as that really. You need to mould these guys into whatever you want them to be otherwise they will just remain bland and without a character.
*Sniffles* Love this attitude. It's a great attitude to have when writing and booking.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:52 AM   #3449 (permalink)
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Very true point. Giving someone a simple catchphrase or giving them gimmick you would never usually think that person would have can easily build more depth to your roster and also in turn,, create a few more stars, even if it's just midcard.
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Old 11-15-2012, 04:04 AM   #3450 (permalink)
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I'd take a Doink The Clown over someone boring like a Michael McGillicutty, anyday of the week. I'd love to see more gimmicks and heavier characters in BTB.
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