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First of all I would like to give you a compliment on the way you put Triple H as one of the most hated heels on Raw. Orton/Triple H opening is fine as it is what you would expect. The way you put Edge over as a good contender is good. Edge goading Triple H into his number one contendership is fantastic. What I can see happening is Triple H now taking a step back in the Championship scene and instead you pushing Edge and others into this scene.

Edge’s interview was average but I think this interview should have been later on in the show instead this early. Obviously you wanted to put him over as much as you could and I don’t mind that.

Benjamin in the Rumble just = Ratings. Jericho vs Benjamin at the Rumble should be good and hopefully you show us how Athletic these men are. Somehow though I see you turning one of them at the rumble or in the lead upto the rumble. Tomko and Christian in the rumble I like. I See them been the dark horse’s of this match and I think you will make them last till the last 10 men. Good booking with the woman’s match.

The split up of evolution is coming soon. I think that if tista wins the Qualifier match he will end up chucking out Ric Flair or Triple H(IF HE LOSES) setting up a match between Triple H or Ric Flair and Batista at Wrestlemania 21!!!!

Good news about HBK returning to the Ring and I don’t see him loosing his qualifier!!!!!Batista winning the Qualifier match is exactly what I said. I see Tista leaving Evolution and having a match with either Trips or Flair at Wrestlemania so this is what I expected!

Great main event and Orton screwing HHH out of the Championship scene is great. Great booking descion here. Cant wait for Edge and Orton at the Rumble but I see you turning one of them a Heel.

Overall a average raw show but as you said they will get better. Cant wait for Smackdown!!

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Of course, since Orton won the World Title at NYR, he’s gonna have a promo to open the show, so no surprises here. Ok, so this promo started out in character pretty good, you really had Orton sounding like Orton.

“Randy Orton: I am better than I was. I have become a lot smarter, and a whole lot more clever. I know every trick you’ve got, so if you wanna piece of me and this title, why don’t you come to the ring now, and fight me!”

This line right here confused me. I really don’t understand why Orton would randomly call out The Game for a fight. So HHH comes out and they set up a good main event for the Rumble.

Next is one of many things involving Edge in this show, and there was a bit too much of him. Good main event announced, but for some reason I think no matter who wins the Title Match will be a Triple Threat.

Since it’s Rumble Time, we have qualifying matches. No surprises here with the Intercontinental Champion Shelton Benjamin beating Snitsky to qualify. Surprise little appearance here by Y2J. Benjamin & Y2J matches are all ways good, and I’m glad to see this match on the Rumble card. LOL @ “agayneeeee.”

Once again there’s another qualifying match with no surprises. Of course the Tag Champs are going to beat Maven & Dean. (I like Tomko & Christian as Tag Champs BTW.)

Here’s Edge again, good hype for the main event.

Stratus and Victoria are two great women’s wrestlers. I didn’t “thunk” they would keep the crowd interested though :P. Good way to have Trish keep good heel status by cheating to win.

Batista is showing signs that he’s pissed at Evolution, and his face turn soon is inevitable. Orton/Keibler relationship starting I can see.

Michaels is now down for a promo. Since I read ahead, it’s too bad that the Michaels/Edge feud doesn’t look like it’s continuing. After Michaels wins next week, I wonder what will be done with him from there.

Batista showing no remorse on Venis after he qualifies for the Rumble. I was thinking Batista may have turned on Flair there, but he doesn’t. Even more hints of his face turn after talking about him taking the World Title no matter whose waist it is on.

Main event time. This would have been a pretty good TV match. This was pretty entertaining for what you described. The finish was good. Ref bump followed by Orton screwing Triple H. I guess there won’t be a Triple Threat Match. It’s good to see an Orton vs. Edge main event at the Rumble. I expect HHH to go far in the Rumble.

Overall, this was a decent show. Not bad; this was good, but not too special. I thought that you didn't use enough superstars, and your segments were lacking some originality. Other than that, I liked they way you got things going here, and I expect great things from you in the future as you have shown in the past. Good luck with all of your upcoming shows, which I will read and review.

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This is sweet, anything with Orton as WHC is f-ing awesome in my eyes lol

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Orton kicking off the show is the natural way to go, given he's the new champion and all. Bit odd for him to act the perfect gent, kissing Lillians hand, I dont think that'd really go over well with the 18/34 demographic of males watching this good looking chap with all the ladies swooning over him. If he is to remain a face, that aspect of his character needs to be refined a little to make him more likeable.

Bit of a wishy washy promo from Orton (which means it was pretty much in character), although again, his words just dont seem to be very fan friendly. He doesnt have an electric persona like say, The Rock, to carry off an arrogance and still get cheered imo. Triple H announcing a title match at the Royal Rumble is fine. Means they can get their issue perhaps over and done with, before Orton moves on.

... Or not as it were. Bischoff changing his mind and signing a #1 Contender match leads me to think that perhaps, Edge will instead be the one to face Orton at the Rumble. I cant see the #1 Contender thing coming up AFTER a title announcement for any other reason.

No shocks to see Benjamin beating Snitsky for a spot in the Rumble. Given this was a time when Benjamin was looking like a future top star, it'll be interesting to say the least how you push him. Hopefully you do something to give the guy a chance to shine.

Great interaction from Jericho, and hopefully a tease of a heel turn. Benjamin vs Jericho sounds awesome - and makes sense too - for RR. I mark out for double duty at Royal Rumble . Kudos.

Christian & Tomko as tag champions at least gives the two guys a place on the show, but whether it is to be a short term deal to keep Christian busy, or whether you've decided he's best suited as a tag teamer, or just to boost the tag division remains to be seen. 2005 was certainly the time to push Christian in the WWE, it just never got started. I'll be looking out to see how Captain Charisma fares in this thread, along with Benjamin - two guys who could've had it all, but in around this time period, got the shove from potential greatness.

Consequences for Michaels?? Empty threat from Edge?? Or does he really have a wicked plan up his sleeve?? Two segments featuring Edge on this show so far, which would have me thinking - he is certainly going to be pushed as hard - if not harder than in the real world. Not a huge Edge fan, but he was at his hottest in terms of character, at this very point.

Womens division certainly needed a shake up at this point. All the matches and feuds had been done countless times, and as good as matches between Trish & Victoria were, after three years, it certainly loses its spark. A debut for the likes of Melina and Mickie shouldnt be too far off I reckon.

The Batista break away looks like it'll be coming. Glad you've decided to keep this tease of Evolution imploding, as it was the making of Batista. How you go about it will certainly take a different spin methinks. Batista to remain heel perhaps and turn The Game face?? Who knows, but it'll be worth waiting to find out - especially if Batista and The Game end up in the ring at the same time at the Rumble.

Again, Orton getting attention from the ladies is unlikely to endear him to any fans any time soon. At least, that's my opinion, I could be wrong

Michaels promo time . Short, but to the point. The issue with him and Edge is certainly far from over, and it is one I could see potential come to a climax at WrestleMania. It would certainly be a fitting stage for the two to settle their issues. Michaels is surely a lock for gaining entry into the Rumble.

Batista vs Val Venis. Wonder what the outcome will be there . The Animal is off to his Rumble match. Excellent quick sentence from Batista, making sure there is no doubt over what he plans to do once the Rumble is done. Intensity personified from Batista. I could certainly see Flair caught right in the middle of a HHH - Batista angle.

Strange turn of events in the main event. Orton screwing HHH to help Edge is a thinker, and I'm stumped as to why he'd interfere. I have a real feeling that Orton is set for a heel turn. His actions on this show certainly havent been that of a conventional face. Edge vs Orton @ RR will tell a story methinks, and could be a real barn burner. As to where this Michaels - Edge / Edge - Orton / Orton - HHH / HHH - Batista quagmire goes is anyones guess for now. The five sorta seem to be inter connected in some way right now, and it's anyone guess as to where they all end up in the long term.

Interesting first show. Slotted in well with a general weekly Raw feeling, which I would argue was a good thing, rather than pulling out all the stops just because it was the first Raw in this thread. Foundations have been set for what could well be an excellent thread.

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No other way to start the show, expect with Randy Orton and it is good that you started that way. I am kinda surprised that you had him win last night but I guess he deserved it, he was on fire in late 2004/early 2005. Good speech and I actually like his promos better as a face than a heel. Triple H coming out was not a shock and it looks like we will see them square off at the Rumble. Good promo that did its job but I didn’t like how Orton didn’t even respond to a word Triple H said to close the promo.

Another Triple H segment? This came off kinda weird but I am glad that Edge and Triple H are wrestling tonight, even though I say Triple H keeps the shot.

Shelton over Snitsky is obvious but it was good to see the match get a decent amount of time. Shelton needs to beat guys like Snitsky to further cement his legacy and I was glad to see him qualify for the RR, should go far in the match.

Jericho coming out was a nice surprise and I am glad that we now have Y2J vs. Shelton for the IC Title at the RR. I hope that this feud continues for a while, with Jericho maybe making a heel turn in the process.

Christian and Tomko as World Tag Champs owns, imo. No doubt that they would beat Dean and Maven and I like how you had them qualify together, making me think they will be by each other’s side for a while. I like Tomko as the bodyguard and they could also make a good face tandem.

Another segment with Edge? Seems a little early, imo. Good promo from Edge and I think that HBK may screw him again tonight. The ending of the promo came a little early, imo but it did its job nonetheless.

I like the heel Trish Statrus as the Women’s Champ and Victoria is really the only contender left now that Lita is injured. Decent contest but there was really no doubt that Trish was retaining. Good heel move for her and maybe we will see Trish vs. Victoria in the future, possibly at WM21?

Nice interaction between Flair and Batista and it looks like Batista will be looking to branch out of Evolution, just like in real life. I hope that he gets a good push as a tweener before becoming a full-blown face.

Gotta love the romance in the WWE. Orton has got EVERYTHING going for him right now.

The promo from HBK seemed a little short but I guess you got the point across. There is no way that the feud with Edge is over and I see these two getting into another brawl at the Royal Rumble. Good to hear that HBK has a qualifying match next week and I guess it goes without saying that he will be in RR.

Batista squashing Val was OK and Batista is gonna dominate the Rumble, imo. Good speech after by both men and I feel we may see Triple H vs. Batista very, very, soon.

Main Event time baby! Very solid contest and I couldn’t believe that Triple H kicked out of the spear. Triple H moves the ref into the line of fire! I guess there are no rules as long as Earl is down and I was surprised to see that Triple H didn’t use the sledgehammer right away. Now the weapon comes into play but Orton’s out here!! RKO!! Edge beats Triple H thanks to Orton!! Very good ending to the main event and I was sure Triple H was getting a shot at the RR.

Overall, a decent show. I like the World Title situation and I am intrigued as to where that will go following the RR. Orton as champ owns and I hope he keeps it until at least WM 21, which is see happening. Not really much time to get other feuds going, what with the RR approaching, but I am sure we will see more next week. Good job, 7.5/10.

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Cant wait for smackdown. Looks good and your going ahead with the triple threat which should be good. Hope you build it up differntley though!!

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I'm headed to RAW tomorrow night, and I doubt I'll have posting time. So, here it is. Enjoy. Leave feedback, all that stuff.

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WWE SmackDown!
January 13, 2005
Tampa, FL

Recap of Last Week's Events

Opening Video

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Michael Cole: 17 days away from the Royal Rumble, we come to you from Tampa, Florida with one of the most explosive editions of SmackDown! in history! Good evening I’m Michael Cole alongside Tazz here at ringside, and partner tonight we’ve got a HUGE main event!

Tazz: You are damn right Cole. After the events of last week, General Manager Theodore Long has made a triple threat match for the WWE Championship!! JBL defending against Kurt Angle and The Big Show!!

Michael Cole: And that match could be an early contender for match of the year, but also Tazz we’ve got a load of Royal Rumble qualifying matches, and a whole lot more! But it looks to me like we’re kicking off the show, with the Olympic Gold Medalist!

*Medal*

Kurt Angle walks down to the ring to the famous ‘You Suck’ chants which he seems to be ignoring. Angle, ready for tonight’s triple threat match gets into the ring rather quickly, alongside Luther Reigns and Mark Jindrak, the Angle Alliance.

Kurt Angle: You know I thought that Florida sucked in general, but GOD does Tampa suck even more!!

Crowd boos

Kurt Angle: Seriously people, what would make you wanna live in a city, where the baseball team hasn’t even gotten out of last place since they came to exist!!?

Crowd boos again, even though they probably all realize that the Devil Rays suck

Kurt Angle: ANYWAY, tonight is a very historic night for your favorite Olympic Gold Medalist. Because tonight is the night that I become a five time WWE Champion, ohhhh it’s true!!

Mixed reaction, as some would like Angle to take the title from JBL

Kurt Angle: And I think it’s damn well about time that SOMEBODY takes the WWE Title, from that stuck up billionaire John ‘Bradshaw’ Layfield!

Crowd cheers

Kurt Angle: I can’t think of a champion that’s gotten out of more troublesome situations with the help of his ‘Cabinet,’ than any other champion I recent memory, besides JBL. And JBL, tonight your luck runs out. [Crowd pops] Because I’m gonna be the one to take the WWE Championship back to where it belongs, around the waist of the greatest athlete to ever step foot in a WWE ring. And that’s true!

Crowd cheers again, as Angle seems to be in a tweener role

Kurt Angle: Did I tell you people to cheer me? Shut the hell up!

Crowd boos, as that tweener role once again shows its heel factors

Kurt Angle: And if any of you think that I’m worried about that 500-pound Sasquatch named Big Show… then you must be the biggest idiots since the people who cheered for the Tampa Bay Lightning two years ago – because hockey sucks!

Crowd boos again, as Angle is really inciting this crowd

Kurt Angle: Big Show isn’t even in my damn rear view, which I’m surprised at by the way, because of the way he’s been looking. But the fact is, my mind is set on one thing, and that’s the gold baby. And your Olympic hero is going to make all of your dreams come true. WOOO!

Crowd boos, as suddenly *Longhorn* hits and JBL’s stretch limo begins to pull out from the side of the arena. The chauffeur comes out of the driver’s seat, and opens the back door, as the WWE Champion John ‘Bradshaw’ Layfield comes out to a TON of heat, as there are no JBL fans in attendance here tonight. JBL walks up to the ring, but doesn’t go inside. He instead walks back over to his limo, and has a mic in his pocket, which he takes out.

The fans do not let him speak at first, as the boos are raining down

John ‘Bradshaw’ Layfield: Will you people sit down and shut up, and let a REAL champion talk?

Crowd boos

John ‘Bradshaw’ Layfield: Kurt was right. You damn idiots don’t know a real champion from a farce. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers were a worse excuse for a champion, then the Tampa Bay Lightning were a few years ago. And that is a fact. The only real champion, to ever step foot in this hell hole of a city, is the man speaking right now, the greatest WWE Champion in history, J…B…L…!

Crowd boos

Kurt Angle: JBL, thanks for that. As if we haven’t heard that a thousand times.

Crowd cheers

John ‘Bradshaw’ Layfield: You call yourself an Olympian? Have some damn respect! Know your damn place Kurt, you aren’t in my league.

Crowd boos, as Angle looks taken aback from the words

Kurt Angle: Not in your league…? John… the last time I checked, I’m the best amateur wrestler in this business’ history. What are you? Some guy who got in bar fights and worked a sham of a protection agency a few years ago? And I’m not in your league!? I think you’ve got things mixed up BUCKO.

Crowd pops

John ‘Bradshaw’ Layfield: Don’t you DARE call me a degrading name, like ‘bucko’ again, or you’re gonna be eating canvas for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Kurt Angle: Whatever you say… … … … …bucko.

Crowd pops, as JBL is livid

John ‘Bradshaw’ Layfield: Do you want me to come down to that ring!?

Kurt talks to Reigns and Jindrak, who soon leave the ring, and Kurt gets back on the mic

Kurt Angle: Don’t just sing it… bring it, bucko.

Kurt drops the mic, as JBL takes his cowboy hat and suit jacket off, and then runs into the ring, where Angle meets him with rights and lefts! JBL also socks him with rights and lefts of his own, and Reigns and Jindrak step in now and begin clubbing on the back of the WWE Champion. Soon, the Cabinet comes down to the ring in full force, and a brawl is on!!

The Angle Alliance and The Cabinet are going at it in the center of the ring, and now all around it as some of the action has spilled to the outside. Suddenly, *WELL IT’S THE BIG SHOW* hits and the crowd becomes electric as The Big Show walks down to the ring!!! Everyone soon stops fighting and turns their attention to him, as Orlando then races to Show, who grabs him by his neck and throws him into the limousine!!!

He chops down on Doug and Danny’s heads, who came charging at him. Mark Jindrak and Luther Reigns then come charging, and give Show his biggest fight so far, but Show shoves Reigns into the steel steps, and clutches Jindrak by his neck, and lifts him up high in the air, AND SLAMS HIM DOWN WITH THE CHOKESLAM ON THE OUTSIDE FLOOR!!

The crowd is buzzing as Show turns his attention to Angle and JBL in the ring, who look at each other from opposite directions in the ring. Kurt decides to show the balls as Big Show steps over the top rope, and Angle darts forward – BUT BIG SHOW GRABS HIM BY THE NECK!!! He lifts him up in the air, with JBL looking on, and SLAMS him down with another chokeslam!! The crowd is roaring, as all that’s left is JBL, who is cornered now.

John tries to run away, but The Big Show halts him in his tracks. He tries to go into the other direction, but Big Show again stops him!!! The crowd is getting ecstatic, as JBL once again tries to get away, but Big Show stops him AGAIN and clutches his neck!! CHOKESLAM IS COMING!! NO~!! Danny Basham comes in and chop blocks The Big Show, and the champ gets away!

The Bashams recuperate with