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Default WF 2007 - BTB Hall of Fame Ceremony



Let me first start of by saying thanks to all of the twenty-two people that have voted and though some people didn’t read through the awards and just sent me names, it still was an overwhelming turn out. I’m glad that everyone got to vote and speak out on how they felt about BTB and who deserved to get into the Hall of Fame. Now I’m going to stop rambling and introduce the inductees to you now.

Forever-Delayed

Since the summer of 2005, we have been graced with a very talented booker, and now he can add to his list a major accomplishment, a Hall of Famer! I’ve spoke to F-D a few times but it has been awhile and he seems to be very laid back much like myself. I like to sit back and watch BTB grow and that is what it has done since we’ve been here. And now speaking of F-D, the man is a Tournament Winner, a World Cup Winner as he led his team to victory, and he came oh so close to winning the Promo Tournament and pulling off a Triple Crown award. However, he has shown us his writing abilities in his thread since he started it back in June of 2005. Currently, one of the longer running threads, (though of course Wolfy beats him out!) he hasn’t known any other thread than that one at all. The man has written many great matches such as Jericho/RVD/Angle, Jericho vs. Michaels, and he’s made stars out of people like Matt Hardy, Shelton Benjamin, and many more. He has such a creative mind when it comes to booking and that is why the people have spoken and voted for Forever-Delayed, the first member of the Class of Double-07!

Bookers Thoughts About Forever-Delayed

“Same reasoning as you as far as being an awesome booker, great pay-per-views, great reviewer, etc. He may not have gone above and beyond to aid the section like running a tournament or whatever, but his actual booking along with writing skills are really legendary around here (despite being overrated at times )...and plus, who else can you vote for?”

-Spartanlax


“Has vastly improved and become so good that he's within inches of being as good as Wolfy, and that is something special. Thoroughly deserves to be inducted.”

-Renegade


“This is who I believe is most deserving. FD is one of the true greats of BTB and is arguebly the best in BTB today and maybe the best booker to date. He's a great booker, he's innovated BTB with his talents, and he's done a great job over his stay here. He's a legend no doubt and he deserves his spot.”

-Deadman_014


“The most deserving member on the board not yet to be inducted. FD is a true inspiration to the dozens of bookers at WF, even the older bookers too. Was within a handful of points from becoming the first ever 'triple crown winner' in BTB, and I couldnt think of a more deserving candidate to do just that. One of the very best in match writing, and likewise with promos. Not only that, but he should have rightfully been the 2006 Booker of the Year, as in my opinion, 2006 was his year.

A former winner of the BTB Match Writing Tournament, joining an elite list of people, mostly made up of HoF inductees, and he should be no different to them.

The first ever winning Captain of the BTB World Cup, leading England to an againt the odds victory, which wouldnt have been achieved without his organisational skills when they looked doomed to lose.

And, fell at the final hurdle, when competing to become the first ever winner of the BTB Promo Tournament, having knocked out the pre-tournament favourite to get there.

Not to mention he is the founder of arguably the best BTB on the forums today, 'Forever-Delayed and kane01 do WWE', a thread that is CERTAIN to be remembered for a long time to come, even after it's final chapter is written.

The list of the greats to be part of BTB that will be not only inducted into this HoF, but actually fondly remembered should add one more to that list this year - FOREVER DELAYED.”

-Wolf Beast


“In my opinion, and I say this with all sincerity, Forever-Delayed is quite possibly the best all round booker on this site, and with a combination of amazing match writing skills, solid promo writing ability, and an obvious 'booking brain', to me, Forever-Delayed is a perfect example of a fighter, a guy who may not have extraordinary natural abilty, but whose determination and knowledge never fails to produce shows of the highest quality, week in and week out.”

-Orry


“ A truly great booker that I have had the chance to talk to a few times on MSN and he is a great dude. He much like me likes to push the mid-carders and likes to keep the thread really realistic. His partner, kane01 certainly has helped him a lot too as he has been there with him for a little over a year and I’m sure F-D gives much credit to kane too. So congrats F-D and it’s good to see you in the Hall of Fame”

-King of Pain


(A few other votes were cast for F-D but due to no details or very little details, they weren’t put on here)

Interview with Forever-Delayed

King of Pain:
Ok, right now I'm here with one of the Hall of Fame inductees, that being Forever-Delayed and congrats on the induction F-D!
Forever-Delayed:
yey....
Forever-Delayed:
made it at the first attempt, so i must be doing something right
King of Pain:
Ok, let's go ahead and start it out with some of the basic questions. Was there any certain booker who inspired you so to speak to book?
Forever-Delayed:
When I first got to this site 2 years ago, I just looked around at a lot of different threads just to see what all the threads were like, and liked the whole premise of it, so decided to give it a shot off the back of that
Forever-Delayed:
the first thread's that I got really into was one by Les Turrey who did something like WWE in 1999, which was a pretty good thread, and also your thread that was running at the time (one of a kind... I'm thinking), but it was a combination of things that inspired me to book, not really 1 individual in particular
Forever-Delayed:
I didnt read the threads by the HOF's such as Wolfy until I had started booking, so I can't really say they inspired me to start booking
King of Pain:
Wow, I loved the summer of 2005. Many bookers came out of that era so what would have been your favorite time to book since you’ve been here?
Forever-Delayed:
Summer of 2005 was a good place to start, as there were a lot of strong characters at the time, and there were some decent feuds to build from, so it gave any new booker a good starting point
Forever-Delayed:
I have thought about booking from after Wrestlemania 2000, as that is about when I first got into wrestling, and so that would be a good place to go from, while the only other ideas that I have had involve starting a thread at the present time, or in a few weeks in the future, and see what I can do with the current roster
Forever-Delayed:
1997 looks to be a good year by the amount of people who start a thread based around that, but I wasn't watching wrestling then, so i doubt I'd be able to accurately do that time-era
King of Pain:
Just like me bud...
Forever-Delayed:
.... just forgot about re-doing the invasion as well, as that could have been done so much better
Forever-Delayed:
lol
King of Pain:
And speaking of threads, your thread being Forver-Delayed and Kane01 Presents WWE (cheap plug, I know) has been running strong since June of 2005. I remember looking at your thread and just shaking it off at first as I think you gave me a review but instead, I saw you become popular over the two years you've been booking. But anyways, how have you managed to keep the thread for so long?
Forever-Delayed:
A combination of factors really have led to it being so successful. Firstly it helped that I managed to build up a fan base at the beginning, and there were a whole load of us that traded reviews, so it spurs you on to do more shows.
Forever-Delayed:
Then, I started to win awards, and realised I had some talent for writing shows and matches, so I carried on with it as something to try and improve at and win awards, as well as wanting to keep the ideas that I have going. For instance, I have up until Mania 23 planned, and don't want to waste the plans I have made
Forever-Delayed:
You need to have the motivation to keep things going, and not just start a new thread when things don't go your way (you can do, but if you always do that you'll never get a long-running thread)
Forever-Delayed:
I suppose I should thank Kane01 here as well, as he took over Smackdown when I ran out of time to do 2 shows a week, and if I couldn't get a reliable partner, then I don't know whether I'd still be booking
King of Pain:
I learned that early on like you and now my thread has been going strong for about
King of Pain:
15 months but not even close to your 21 months.
Forever-Delayed:
the longer running the thread is, you generally get more respect as well, and then keeps you motivated as well
King of Pain:
And since we're on the topic of your thread still, what has been your favorite PPV to write?
Forever-Delayed:
A toss up between Survivor Series and Wrestlemania
Forever-Delayed:
Survivor Series because it had the 2 best matches that I have ever written on the card (the HHH/Flair I Quit match and HBK/Jericho.... Wolfy's favourite BTB match (I think))
Forever-Delayed:
But Wrestlemania is Wrestlemania, and I stacked my half of the card with great matches that were fun to write, and all turned out to be good matches as well
Forever-Delayed:
If I had to choose, I would go for Wrestlemania, but probably due to the fact there are more good matches on that show
King of Pain:
And since you mentioned matches, let's go ahead and ask what have been your favorite matches and promos to write in your thread?
Forever-Delayed:
Favourite match... has to HBK vs. Jericho from SS, as it is the best planned out match that I have ever come up with. The fact there were some many twists and turns in the match, and the fact the storyline was combined with the great wrestling as well made it a great match (if you haven't read it, I suggest you should do....)
Forever-Delayed:
Close second would be the Mania main event, Jericho vs. Christian, as that match told a great story I thought, and was the culmination of the entire build up to Mania
Forever-Delayed:
On promos... the Cena funeral has to be up there, as it is the best promo that I have ever written, and also allowed to write a semi-decent rap, which is always fun to try
Forever-Delayed:
I have to mention any of the Christian/Tomko/Maria promos as well, as they contain so many jokes and sarcastic comments that they are such a laugh to write
King of Pain:
You seem to be like me in that you like to push mid-card wrestlers over bringing in old, washed up wrestlers. Such examples are you using Kid Kash, Gregory Helms, Daivari, Charlie Haas, and others. Does it bother you sometimes when the show is stacked with too many main eventers and no mid-carders hardly at all?
Forever-Delayed:
That is one of the things that I don't like about some other threads, as it just doesn't look right at all with all these main eventers dominating the shows, as there is nowhere for the new stars to go on the card
Forever-Delayed:
I personally think I have too many main eventers in my thread at the moment, and I only have 6 or 7, so I prefer to work with a lot more mid carders than main eventers
Forever-Delayed:
In terms of bringing in wrestlers, I have only brought in AJ Styles who was outside the WWE at the time (and that was back in 2005 when I did it), and brought in a few people like the Spirit Squad who have debuted since, as if there are too many debuts, then the impact that they have is lost.
Forever-Delayed:
They have to be effectively, and this doesnt really happen if there are too many of them.
Forever-Delayed:
I also like to make my own stars, which is why I am pushing people like Matt Hardy up the card, and gradually moving them into the main events
King of Pain:
Now moving off the topic of your thread for now, the World Cup begins next month and well, we all know you led your team to victory last year. Though the teams haven't been set yet, do you see a repeat possible in your future?
Forever-Delayed:
I have to say yes, as otherwise what is the point of competing?
Forever-Delayed:
But honestly, I don't see us retaining the title, and I can't look past USA North for the title at the moment.
Forever-Delayed:
Just looking at the strength of their line up, and they have 3 or 4 people who would walk into any team, and then have about 4 or 5 more who are almost as good, and they are my tips to walk the title at the moment
King of Pain:
Your team might be like mine, we have a completly different look this year as we have a few back but most don't have the experience from last year in the Cup.
Forever-Delayed:
Last year I got lucky in the fact 2 or 3 veterans re-appeared (Red Cold, the Blueman) and they helped us win the title, but at the moment we don't have the quality to win (although I don't know what about half of the team are like as I have never seen them book)
Forever-Delayed:
You need to have the experience really, as it gives you so many more options with what to go for in terms of matches and promos
King of Pain:
You want to pin-point any names that you see standing out in the Cup so far and making a name for themselves this year as many did last year.
Forever-Delayed:
A lot of the more well known bookers will have another good tournament, and the more quality bookers you have in your team, the better chance of winning you have
Forever-Delayed:
This tournament is a chance for people to make a name for themselves, so I guess bookers who have potential such as Deadman, Emporer DC etc have a chance to show what they are capable of here
Forever-Delayed:
There will be someone who comes from nowhere and puts in a brilliant set of performances, but no idea who that will be (hope they are British though...)
King of Pain:
Haha of course.
King of Pain:
So, just last month you gave everyone a huge surprise when you made it to the finals of the Promo Tournament, had you came so close, you would have won. Did you surprise yourself at all or did you know you had it in you all along?
Forever-Delayed:
I always knew that I could get to the finals, and if I was in the other side of the draw, I probably would have had a much better chance of winning it, as I wouldn't have had to have used my best promo against Szumi in the semi finals
Forever-Delayed:
I didn't expect to beat him really, but I'll take the win over him, but I didn't have anything left for the final and I had a chest infection at that time as well, so I didn't feel up to writing a new promo... so i stuck out a comedy promo on the basis it would pick up entertainment points and hope to be enough
Forever-Delayed:
I didn't win it this time, but maybe next time I'll win the title, as it is the only major title I need to win
King of Pain:
And speaking of tournaments, it's a long time from now, but in the summer, the Match Tournament returns, who do you think will take that?
Forever-Delayed:
Could be anyone to be honest, as there is no clear favourite to win it.
Forever-Delayed:
Spartanlax as the defending champion is always going to be a threat, and seems to be able to put it together in the tournaments, so he would probably start as the favourite.
Forever-Delayed:
I would say I have a chance of winning, as this time I have a large batch of matches which I can choose from (mainly the Wrestlemania card), and there are others like Apple Spitter who always have good runs in tournaments
Forever-Delayed:
There are also the specialist match writers who are always dangerous, as well as the up and coming bookers who will use it to push them into the limelight
Forever-Delayed:
It's probably the most open tournament ever on this site, with no-one really knowing who will win
King of Pain:
And now, it's a question that gets asked a lot but what are your thoughts on the state of BTB as of now?
Forever-Delayed:
It may not be the best time to ask me this, with me not being too active in the BTB area at the moment and in the last few months, but it does look to have reasonably healthy state
Forever-Delayed:
There are the long running threads such as Wolfy's, yours, Renegade's which are always good, and there are up and coming bookers putting some threads together as well which show a bit of promise
Forever-Delayed:
There does appear to be a trend for people to start a new thread, but after a couple of months or less it doesnt work out, and then they have to start again, which doesnt help really, as they cannot get any real rhythm together
Forever-Delayed:
The World Cup isnt going to help the state of BTB when it comes around, as although it is a good idea, everyone's focus will go onto that, and actual BTB threads will be pushed to one side
King of Pain:
I do remember last year, there were hardly any reviews done and many people didnt book for awhile either so.
Forever-Delayed:
People will have their attention on getting their entry for the world cup done, and so won't book, or won't review a show, and so the whole section slows done
Forever-Delayed:
down
King of Pain:
So what would you say is your favorite thread to read nowadays?
Forever-Delayed
Still has to be Being the Booker by Wolf Beast
Forever-Delayed:
Generally, the storylines are all very good, and the way it is booked is top notch which every segment on the show having a clear purpose
Forever-Delayed:
The promos and the match are all pretty good as well, and also has the advantage of me following it for almost 2 years now, which means you are much more into the actual thread then a new one which takes a while to get going
King of Pain:
And let me ask you, over the course of the past two years that you've booked, did you ever think you'd make it into the Be the Booker Hall of Fame?
Forever-Delayed:
Honestly... I'd have to say that I did think I would make it, as was expecting to make it this year.
Forever-Delayed:
The record I have in tournaments is pretty good (BTB world cup winner, Match writing winner, Promo runner up), and I have managed to keep a successful thread running for almost 2 years, which has been pretty high quality all the way through
King of Pain:
And now you are in the same company as Grendrill, Wolfy, Showstopper, and many others.
King of Pain:
Congrats.
Forever-Delayed:
I guess so by the fact I've joined them in the Hall of Fame
Forever-Delayed:
Thanks, and I guess I should say thank you to all those people who voted for me to be in the Hall of Fame as well
King of Pain:
And we're going to go ahead and wrap up this interview with one thing, what do you have to say to fellow bookers that aspire to be in the Hall of Fame just like you?
Forever-Delayed:
The most important thing is to know what you are doing with any thread that you are writing. If you don't have an idea of where each segment/feud is going to lead to, then it won't come off as well as if you know exactly what the purpose of it is
Forever-Delayed:
You also have continue to enjoy writing the shows, as once the enjoyment of them goes, then the quality is likely to drop off as well
King of Pain:
It has been a pleasure to do this interview with you, and once again congrats.
Forever-Delayed:
Thanks, and congrats to you as well

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King of Pain

In the spring of 2006, King of Pain began booking here at WF. With the start of WWE One of a Kind, I got noticed and then, I guess you can say the rest is history. Beginning at the spring of 2005 where many other bookers began was hard, but it was worth it. I met many other bookers and we even formed a “reviewing” group to hand out reviews. Truly the summer of 2005 was my favorite time to book as many people were making names for themselves and F-D just happened to start around the same time as me. Since December of ’05, I’ve been running with WWE Unleash the Fury and it’s been a long 15 months with my thread but I plan on trying to catch up with Wolfy and others, as I don’t plan on getting rid of that thread for a while! So without further ado, the second inductee into the WF BTB Hall of Fame…King of Pain.


Bookers Thoughts on King of Pain

"KOP has helped me a bit in the past, answering some of my questions. His thread has inspired me to try and be more creative. It makes me want to read the thread more, but I never review. But, yeah. Those two reasons are the reason why I am voting for you, as I see you as the only candidate in my mind."

- Green Day


"You helped the BTB section so, so much. Ran many of the past awards threads (tallying votes, posting results, etc), and are now running the next HOF ceremony. Not to mention you're an awesome booker in every way and have posted numerous great pay-per-views, shows, matches, and promos, while dishing out some of the best reviews in the section. You've done it all, and deserve a place in the HOF (and a mod spot, for that matter ~_~)"

- Spartanlax

" A guy who began booking around the same time as me. Has really devleoped into a truly awesome booker, he works with the most realistic roster in the whole of BTB perhaps, and has become so good he deserves to be inducted this year."

- Renegade

"KOP, has been a good guy to me since basically the beginning of when I was around booking. He has done great things booking wise, and he gotten me into great things such as putting realism in booking, which I have rarely seen anymore. He is one of the top bookers out today, and he has done a lot for BTB over the time he has spent here from looking back at it, so my first vote goes to you mate, you deserve it."

- Deadman_014

"If there is one man who plays an integral part of the BTB forum, and gets little acknowledgement of his effort and skill, it's King of Pain. Long running thread - check. Coherent angles - check. Match writing skills - check. Those are generally just three of the many attributes you need to be a great booker, King of Pain has all of those, and more. Despite holding all the right tools, KOP has always been overlooked for awards, whether monthly or annualy, but it'd be the biggest travesty of all if he was overlooked for this HoF induction.

Whilst he may not be the best at writing promos, he can hold his own with the bst of them.

Whilst he may not write the best matches, he can hold his own with the very best, reaching the finals of the Match writing tournament last spring, and coming within a handful of points of collecting his biggest achievement in booking.

King of Pain though does one thing better than EVERYONE else in BTB, and IMO, it's the thing most seem to either overlook, or just try badly to perfect - REALISM. If you take a look at his thread, you dont see it filled with acts of the yesteryear. Hulk Hogan isnt World Champion, Bret Hart isnt feuding with Shawn Michaels, TNA talent is still with TNA etc.

KOP maybe doesnt have the greatest thread in BTB, but he certainly gets the best out of his mainly average roster. Matt Striker gets a push instead of bringing in Jeff Jarrett. Sylvan Grenier has gotten a chance to get over, because he isnt going to bring in Randy Savage. That's what separates this guy from the rest. He doesnt need The Rock, Steve Austin, Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Bret Hart, Hulk Hogan, et al to provide entertaining shows. He gets more of a thrill pushing new stars like Gregory Helms, Ken Kennedy, Paul London, Brian Kendrick, Shelton Benjamin and so on.

If there is one booker on the forums that has under-achieved it's King of Pain. And personally, I think it's about time he began achieving a whole lot more. Good promos, great matches, better feuds, realistic rosters, and above all else, an all round nice guy. Truly deserving of a place alongside the greats such as Grendrill, Main Event and A-Dust. Make it happen BTB."

- Wolf Beast

"I used to book with you and you were very easy to get along with. I have also always enjoyed your shows. You have made great improvment since you started as well. I only wish that I wouldn't have lost my internet so we could have booked together for a while longer."

- Dark Church

(Like F-D, I had other votes but not enough info or no info at all as to why I was voted so they weren't posted)

Interview with King of Pain


Wolf Beast:
Okay, well, it's with great pleasure that I get to interview a truly deserving member of the 2007 BTB Hall of Fame. King of Pain, welcome to the Hall of Fame
King of Pain:
Thanks! It's great to be in here with many other greats such as yourself.
Wolf Beast:
Thank you. It's a much deserved accolade for the time and effort you've given this BTB.
Wolf Beast:
Now, I'm going to start off with the usual question to kick off an interview. When did you begin booking (both on WF and elsewhere), and what made you want to get involved in booking??
King of Pain:
I began booking back in the Spring of 2005 with WWE One of a Kind. I was searching for some wrestling news and came upon WEF as the main search. So I clicked on it and the rest is history.
King of Pain:
But um, it's funny because like a year before exactly, I decided on taking the roster from WWE.com and cutting them into little slips of paper. I'd draw a name and I'd put both of the wrestlers in a match on SDVR, so I guess it's a type of booking.
King of Pain:
And as to why I got into it, it just looked fun really. I read some threads, can't remember who's I read but I want to say your's was one of the first I did read.
Wolf Beast:
I guess that answers the next question I was getting to - Which bookers / threads helped inspire you and drive you on in your early days??
King of Pain:
I enjoyed reading your thread like I said but I came into a group with bookers like Kid o Mac, Renegade, and a few others. We formed a little group that we decided to trade reviews with one another and suddenly, the reviews started coming in.
King of Pain:
I also remember reading Grendrill, and I think I checked out Showstopper's thread which were great reads and it made me want to continue on, so I could book shows like them I guess.
King of Pain:
Then I found your thread...
King of Pain:
And I've been hooked since!
Wolf Beast:
Wolf Beast:
Thank you.
Wolf Beast:
So, as you had mentioned, you entered the BTB zone at a fairly busy time, as Summer 2005 was approaching, and imo, was by far the most loaded time to be in BTB as there were BTB threads everywhere, and all of them were lasting a certain course of time. Did this make it hard at first to get noticed, or was it indeed easier?
King of Pain:
Yeah, somewhat.
King of Pain:
Like I said, we had the group that didn't last longer than two months I want to say but I was actually returning reviews left and right back then. But really, now I think about it, it was harder of course starting up when nobody knew you.
King of Pain:
I don't want to brag but I rose fairly quick in BTB. Not like legend status but I had the respect of bookers and people were reading my thread. Kinda get what I'm saying?
Wolf Beast:
Absolutely.
King of Pain:
I wasn't you but the people knew me.
Wolf Beast:
Sorry, just a sec, trying to word a question properly here...
King of Pain:
That's fine.
Wolf Beast:
Did you find early on your booking skills improving, with promos and matches considerably, or was your progression just more of a slow process, which has built over time as your near two years have passed?? {Hope that made sense}
King of Pain:
Yeah, I understand that.
King of Pain:
Um, at first really, my skills weren't really improving but this was before the thing about "length" being such a big deal. Once that went out, I knew I had to start making my matches and shows longer and they did. So for like the first five or six months I was here, my writing skills really didn't change but as I got more experience, I learned how to book a show and how to time the show to where you feel that it has went the two hours it is supposed to.
Wolf Beast:
Speaking of the length issue. You arrived in BTB just as length became a major issue in the section. Did you take much notice of that in the early days?? If so, did it cause an adverse effect on your booking?? And do you still think it's a problem that needs fixed, or has it died down?
King of Pain:
No, because I don't really think it started being a major concern until that summer. Which wasn't a good time since so many bookers were coming in. And yeah, it did cause a major change because my first WrestleMania had like one page long matches as that's how it was really back then. But when I got to the GAB in my thread, close to the end of the Summer, I was writing like 3 to 4 page matches.
King of Pain:
It has died down somewhat as I've seen some people recapping PPV's like yourself to keep from tiring out and simply because some people don't feel like reading full matches anymore. I think length has finally been revealed to be over rated which it is.
King of Pain:
And I think recapping some matches is great because we know some people don't want to be reading women's matches, etc. and they'd rather read a recap. I do see many people starting to recap undercard matches very soon.
Wolf Beast:
Okay, so just to wrap up this little length issue section, Do you think the length myth is dying down because bookers dont have the time to dedicate anymore like some used to?? Or do you think it is because of something else?
King of Pain:
I think it's the time constraints. People are realising just how hard it is to book and do eight quality matches for a single brand PPV when it'd be easier just to recap them.
King of Pain:
Either that, or some people are just lazy.
Wolf Beast:
lol
Wolf Beast:
Okay, moving on. What do you think was the moment you realised you had 'arrived' in BTB. Was it certain reaction to a show, or a promo, or a match, PPV or even just a simple monthly award??
King of Pain:
Hmmm, kinda hard to remember that question.
King of Pain:
I'd say really it was my thread's reaction. One of a Kind.
King of Pain:
I think many people were enjoying what I was doing overall (though now I look back and I am confused as to why) but my parnter at the time, Dark Church, was doing.
King of Pain:
But if I had to say something, I guess it would have been when I wrote the Great American Bash. I didn't book the card though but it was like the longest show I had written at the time and the people were enjoying it because this was when length was the "thing" then.
King of Pain:
I then realized I actually enjoyed doing this and I wanted to do it for a while.
Wolf Beast:
What about your partnership with Dark Church?? Was it a good match, or did you two not blend together?? Did he help you at all in improving, and vice versa, and how did the partnership end??
King of Pain:
I was really just looking for a partner at the time and though I didn't need one, I just wanted to see how it would work. We both were inexperienced as I was only there for four months and he was there a little shorter but I felt it worked out for the good. The partnership ended around August whenever I got back from a three week vacation and I waited for like a week for him to get on.
King of Pain:
He got on but it was at a friend's house and he didn't have internet for like a while until he came back sometimes last year so I've been partnerless since.
King of Pain:
about 20 months I believe.
Wolf Beast:
Prefer working alone then, and would you advise it to aspiring bookers starting out today??
King of Pain:
Yeah, I think most should work alone at first and find what rate you work at. If you're like me, it takes you a week to get one show up. But you can make your own decisions and decide how you want your thread to be. But if you have a partner when you start out, you are limited to only your show with ideas, while you feel you could make the other show better too.
King of Pain:
Kinda understand what I'm saying?
King of Pain:
I might have confused you.
Wolf Beast:
No, I see what you mean
King of Pain:
I guess the freedom of booking to shorten it.
Wolf Beast:
lol
Wolf Beast:
Well, that almost covers all of 2005 I guess. Just a few questions to wrap up this section. Do you have a favourite moment in 2005 in your inaugrual year, or any memories you wish to share??
King of Pain:
Hmmm, other than my three week vacation to get away from the madness of BTB at the time?
King of Pain:
I think 2005 was a great year, preferably the summer for people to come in like I've mentioned. People were getting noticed left and right. As for a favorite memory, um I'd have to say that...
King of Pain:
Sorry, trying to think.
Wolf Beast:
lol, thats ok
King of Pain:
Ok, one was putting together the Eddie Guerrero Memorial Show and having all of the matches come together for that one show with so many great matches, but that's not what it was about. I'm just glad to say that I was able to help put that show together.
Wolf Beast:
hey, is it okay if we take like a 15 minute break?? Friend of mine has just called to the house
King of Pain:
I beat a few people in the BTB tournaments that year too! I didn't get past the second round though I don't think.
Wolf Beast:
okay
Wolf Beast:
Well, in my opinion, you began to come to the forefront of the BTB as one of the more established guys at the turn of the year leading into 2006, as veterans such as Main Event and Red Cold etc moved on. Did you begin to sense that perhaps now new bookers would now be looking up to you as someone to try and emulate?
King of Pain:
Yeah, as I noticed many people were leaving last year and I was probably at the peak of my popularity then but still, I've been deemed the "person that doesn't get the respect he deserves" by many people.
Wolf Beast:
yuh, I've certainly made that comment many times
King of Pain:
So I knew I was going to stand out so to speak as I had started my new thread around that time and many people were enjoying how it was done overall though sometimes it lacked stuff, I'll admit that but I had a feeling people were going to start "liking" me if you can call it that.
Wolf Beast:
Yeah. If I'm honest, I remembered little about your 'One of a Kind' thread. I vaguely remember a Raven match at GAB, but that's literally it. However, instantly, the new thread you began with in late 2005 caught, and held my attention, and was when I certainly began to notice you as someone worthy of respect in BTB.
King of Pain:
At least your honest!
Wolf Beast:
Now, I'd like to bring up the PPV, that again, in my own eyes made you in BTB. The Royal Rumble. One of the top five PPV events I've probably ever read on WF, with a real stand out match between Kurt Angle and John Cena inside HIAC. Did you get the feeling whilst writing the PPV that it might be the 'making' of you in BTB??
King of Pain:
Actually to be honest, back then no I didn't.
Wolf Beast:
Oh. When then, did you get the feeling that a certain event would be the 'making' of you in BTB??
King of Pain:
WrestleMania.
King of Pain:
Obvious answer but it was really when I made my matches longer than normal.
King of Pain:
The Royal Rumble was good as it had Angle/Cena and the Rumble in it, I liked it but I didn't at the time feel it was "the" event
King of Pain:
There can be an argument made though that the Rumble and WM did "define" me as what I am today but of course, I'm partial to WM.
Wolf Beast:
That's cool. (Any questions you want me to ask about WM??)
King of Pain:
How bad really did you think the squash of the night, 3MW vs. Kane and Big Show was?
Wolf Beast:
Okay, speaking of WM, how bad did you honestly think the squash of the night was - that match being 3MW vs Kane & Big Show??
King of Pain:
I thought it was a two star match, it had it's spots but really, it was nothing special. It was only seven minutes long.
Wolf Beast:
Overall then, did you feel you got the plaudits you deserved for WM?? Or did it surpass the expectations you held for it?? Or indeed, did you at all think it undelivered??
King of Pain:
I think it delivered. It had it's moments in the US Triple Threat, Rock/Orton, HBK/HHH, and the main events which made it feel to me like a well built up show.
Wolf Beast:
Certainly did
King of Pain:
The build was there and the matches were there, but this year, let me go ahead and say I'm not doing 12 matches for WM.
King of Pain:
It was a pain in the ass at times to have to do twelve matches but overall, I thought it was a good show but of course, there have been better WM's than mine.
Wolf Beast:
Well, moving on from your thread now for the moment, in 2006 you had great success in tournaments conducted in BTB. Beaten finalist in one of the two Match writing tournaments, and Captain of US South in the inaugrual BTB World Cup, where you did a commendable job holding together a weak team. Was this another step do you believe in reaching your Hall of Fame status??
King of Pain:
Absolutely.
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I had a good start in the tournament and the Finals was great which saw myself, F-D, and Jushin which had to have been one of the closest finals. I think I had ran out of matches and I posted my HIAC with Cena/Angle for the finals, but it wasn't enough.
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As for the World Cup, I didn't have the strongest team but I did manage to get us a few wins and had we not been screwed up by not getting a match in the fourth and final match of the preliminaries, I felt we could have at least gotten third place.
King of Pain:
But absolutely, both of those were huge parts in my BTB career and I'm proud a
King of Pain:
I can get another chance to manage the US South once again this year.
Wolf Beast:
And best of luck to you in it.
King of Pain:
I hope we do get at least to the round of five.
Wolf Beast:
(Umm, just wondering, would you have qualified for the HoF last year??)
King of Pain:
Yes.
King of Pain:
And I was glad I didn't get voted in last year as I didn't deserve it at that time.
Wolf Beast:
Ok. So, this marks the second year you've ran the Hall of Fame. Did you feel you maybe had a chance of making it in last years class, regardless of whether you felt you deserved it?? And, did you come close to being inducted in the end??
King of Pain:
I felt I had somewhat of a chacne but I didn't get a vote and I was glad as I didn't feel I deserved it like I said. Last year only nine people voted. And it was weird because each one of the inductees that got in had four votes a piece
Wolf Beast:
Right.
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Throughout 2006, you continued to progress in BTB, and further raise your profile as one of the best out there. How frustrating was it for you to see other people, arguably less talented people take plaudits ahead of you?? And did the tag of 'deserves more respect' at all annoy you??
King of Pain:
Absolutely. I had been here for longer than most of these "talented" bookers people were talking about and it still happens to this day. I think if someone else was in my shoes, they'd feel the same way as I was indeed jealous of this.
King of Pain:
I guess it's just natural to me because I have a competitive nature and I strive to be the best in sports or anything, so I strive to be one of the best in BTB too I guess. And to see some no names walk in and feel they deserve respect over people that have been here longer than them is wrong.
King of Pain:
As for the tag, nah.
King of Pain:
I felt people knew I was out there, they just still hadn't seen what I could do. And there still are people that are like that. I've seen many people be mentioned over me so it doesn't bother me as much but of course, it still happens every now and then.
King of Pain:
I guess I'm just use to it by now.
Wolf Beast:
Ok. So again we move into a new year (unless you wanted to cover anything more from last year?)
King of Pain:
Nah, not that I can think of.
Wolf Beast:
kk. So now we enter a new year. It's still early on, so what plans do you have, booking wise, for this year - goals etc
King of Pain:
Well, I have WrestleMania 23 planned out and really, I'm going to try my best to have the year of 2006 done in my thread.
King of Pain:
I've got some plans ready and my SummerSlam is looking huge too right now, but as far as my thread goes, I won't reveal too much.
King of Pain:
As for the section, first off, I'd love to win the BTB World Cup. That'd be great and we have a stronger team this year than last year. Plus with more team members to work with, I feel it's going to be more to our advantage this year than it was last year.
Wolf Beast:
That's the spirit
King of Pain:
And the writing tournament, not to brag but some of you better all watch out!
King of Pain:
I've got tons of matches set to unload on all of you bookers, and I think if I am ever going to win the match writing tournament, than this will be the year.
Wolf Beast:
That should be interesting to see. You've always been there or thereabouts, so it's certainly not out of the question
King of Pain:
hopefully, my goal is to actually win the BTB tournament, and F-D's striving to get that Promo Tournament, so maybe I can get the Triple Crown before him
Wolf Beast:
Alright, so now you're officially set to be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Would you mark this as a crowning achievement in your BTB career, or are there bigger goals you view bigger as this accomplishment??
King of Pain:
Of course, I feel this is what everybody strives to do but there are still many more things I can do and I want to do. I'm at an early age and I must be like the youngest person inducted into the HOF. So I do have some years ahead of me hopefully so I do see myself doing many other things here in BTB and who knows, I might end up writing three more WrestleMania's before I leave.
King of Pain:
but my ultimate goal is to keep Unleash the Fury as long as I can going.
King of Pain:
It's what brought me to the dance and it's what I want to make famous like the Being the Booker's, the Rise of Glory's and the other threads that are remembered by bookers.
Wolf Beast:
And how do you feel now, lining up alongside the likes of Grendrill and Showstopper in the Hall of Fame??
King of Pain:
hmmm, I feel like a Rey Mysterio standing by a Hulk Hogan.
King of Pain:
if that makes any sense.
Wolf Beast:
lol, I think I get it
King of Pain:
wait, a Mysterio by a Andre the Giant
King of Pain:
ok, that's better
King of Pain:
I'll say right now people may not like me getting into the Hall of Fame, but hey, you all voted me in. I must have done something right to get into the HOF so early right? I might have not done as much as you, Grendrill, or Showstopper yet but hey, I haven't been here as long as all three of you either.
Wolf Beast:
Well, now that this years Hall of Fame is done and dusted, is there anyone you feel deserved to join both yourself and FD into the Hall of Fame this year??
King of Pain:
Red Cold. I wasn't around when he was here as active but I feel the man is the one that has been overlooked by most bookers. Maybe it's because he hasn't been active and most people don't know him that well.
King of Pain:
But I do love this class of '07, we both came from the same time of booking, and we both watched each other develop into what we are today, so it's like a perfect match,
Wolf Beast:
And now, as a Hall of Famer, I'll ask this two part question. Firstly, who would you like to see join the group next year, and who do you think actually will be inducted??
King of Pain:
That's kind of a hard question. It's going to be an interesting class next year as I feel it bringing in the "new school" so to speak with possibly AMP and Szumi being inducted. AMP being inducted for doing the first succesful TNA BTB and Szumi for doing his famous promos.
King of Pain:
Plus Spartanlax might if he can keep a thread!
Wolf Beast:
Yeah, they certainly strike me as future Hall of Famers in BTB.
Wolf Beast:
This is a question I meant to ask earlier... you've been known for being the most realistic booker in terms of talent used, and pushing low card guys into decent mid card spots. Matt Striker, Sylvan Grenier among others. Was this a conscience decision of yours to push the guys at your disposal, rather than following the norm, and raiding TNA for talent??
King of Pain:
Yes. I love realism, and I hate people bringing in the Styles, Daniels, and the Sabin's of the worlds to a WWE thread.
King of Pain:
Why not keep the talent you've got. WWE has many talented superstars such as Striker, Grenier, Conway, Dupree, and others that don't get used as much in the WWE but have the talent.
King of Pain:
I think bringing in TNA talent and loading them onto a WWE roster is like the last resort because you don't to make use of the mid-card you've got.
Wolf Beast:
Excellent point. So, out of all the matches you've wrote, all the shows you've posted, and all the awards you've picked up, who are your favourites?? Favourite wrestler to use in promos, favourite in matches, your favourite promo, match, PPV, and weekly show if you have a personal favourite.
King of Pain:
Ok.
King of Pain:
My favorite wrestler to use in promos would be Striker. I've managed to nail down his character and he's always fun to use with his big words he uses. He's a very easy character to work with too since he is the "teacher" that you love to hate so to speak
King of Pain:
Favorite in matches would have to be RVD. As you can tell, he has like a wide variety of moves he uses with all kinds of kicks and his extreme style certainly helps too in hardcore matches. His moveset is like really huge and he has like 25+ moves I want to say.
King of Pain:
Um, my favorite promo.
King of Pain:
My favorite promo would have to be possibly whenever I had Triple H do a backstage interview a month or so back in the thread. Many people liked it as it seemed very instense and had it’s moments in it that made it seem like Triple H. I can’t really remember any but some honorable mentions go to my Angle/Bischoff one where Angle got back the original WWE belt and when Edge and Orton chunked the belts into the crowd was a great one too.
King of Pain:
Next, is favorite match. Hmmm, hard one but the Angle/Cena Hell in a Cell is always going to be a favorite of mine. It was so intense and it finally blew off the real life feud they were having. Sure some spots were unrealistic but it had that intense feel with the buildup to it being great too and it actually delivered. As far as a straight wrestling match, I loved the HBK/Jericho match I just wrote a week or so back for Vengeance.
King of Pain:
Favorite PPV has got to be ‘Mania like I said earlier on. So many great matches with the Triple Threat being a huge opener, MITB was a great spot match, a few good mid-card matches thrown in along with the main events of HHH/HBK, Orton/Rock, Batista/’Taker, Edge/Christian, and RVD/Angle made it a show to remember.
King of Pain:
And finally, favorite weekly show would have to be the show which would have to be the first show of my thread, the January 2 show. Even though I lost it, it was the Night Of Champions. Angle/Cena in a Cage, Masters winning the IC title, and so much more happened on that show which seems funny because you would think it would have been a recent show I would have picked.
Wolf Beast:
so, in closing what message would you give aspiring bookers, looking to follow your footsteps into the BTB Hall of Fame?
King of Pain:
Don't give up, if you don't get reviews at first, that doesn't mean nobody doesn't like your thread. They most likely haven't seen it because you haven't reviewed. I think keeping a thread is the most important thing too because if you do that, people will respect you because they know you are dedicated to your plans and you want to see them go through.
Wolf Beast:
Well, I guess thats a wrap. It's an honour to welcome you into the Hall of Fame King of Pain, and you definately deserve the honour. Welcome!!
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KOP, that was a fucking awesome interview. Over the last coupe of months i have been questioning weather i can make it into the Hall of Fame. I am positive now that i can get there. Just reading your interview gave me such great enthusiam to get back to writing and try and create a legacy for myselg. I would just like to say thankyou to both you and FD. I was lucky enough to com around when i think both of your threads were kicking off so i am privelidged in that aspect.

An awesome interview and both fully deserving of your spot in the Hall of Fame.
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Nice to see two great booker get inducted which was definately something that you both deserve. Congrats to both of you guys for the amazing achivement in BTB. Just one question though, wern't there supposed to be more than 2 people inducted? Now biggie just want to know what happened.
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Yeah, I was just about to ask that Takerules. Anyway, I'll have more detailed thoughts, compliments, etc tomorrow, but for now...CONGRATU-FUCKING-LATIONS! You two really deserve it, and glad to see my votes made it.
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Congrats to the boys who got in. This whole thing was extremely well done.
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Nah.

I did it by percentage of votes this year and you needed about half the vote or damn near close to it. I had 12 votes for me, which meant I had a 55 percentage. 12 out of 22 is 55 percent.

F-D had a 37 percent as he had 8 out of 22 votes.

Nobody else came close.
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Congrats to both as you are both very well deserving. I also enjoyed reading both interviews and a very nice job was done on the ceremony this year.
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Great interviews with KOP and FD. As a member of the BTB Hall of Fame, I like to say congratulations to the both of you as both of your threads have been one of the elite threads here in BTB. Once again congratulations. 1!
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Congrats to F-D and KOP. Both were very deserving in my opinion.
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Congrats to FD and KOP, you guys deserve it
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