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What a UKIP Britain would look like

Mixed views on the party, some call them saviours of Britain, others call them the racist joke of Britain, some describe Nigel Farage as the UK equivalent of George Bush Jr if he'd won the next election.

Now I've found the policies of UKIP & what they really stand for in Britain, but not solely focused on immigration but other issues that need attention, please read & give your thoughts on what a UKIP Britain would look like
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...to-commitments


Tax and the economy
Merge income tax and national insurance into a flat 31% for all starting at 11,500. Scrap employers' NI with revenue recouped from corporation tax, VAT or reduced welfare.

Cut state spending to 1997 levels with loss of two million public sector jobs, replaced by one million new manufacturing jobs and at least another million created because of Ukip's lower tax environment.

Council tax cut paid for by axeing landfill tax and cull of town hall "non jobs". The defence equipment budget will be doubled to 8bn, 3.5bn will be spent on nuclear power plants to provide 50% of energy, and more prisons will be built.


Immigration
Five-year freeze on immigration for permanent settlement followed by 50,000 annual cap.

Work permits to be time-limited and overstaying made a crime. No amnesty for illegal immigrants: all returned to home country.

Minimum five-year wait for British citizenship with no rights to benefits and all asylum seekers to be held in secure units.

End active promotion of the doctrine of multiculturalism.


Crime
Life sentences mean life.

Deport dangerous imams, terror suspects and wanted criminals more easily by scrapping the Human Rights Act.

Double prison places and create "boot camps" for young offenders.

Scrap the "politically correct" Crown Prosecution Service and return to local police prosecutions.


Defence
Increase spending by 40%, double the size of the Territorial Army and increase total armed forces numbers by 25%.

Buy three new aircraft carriers and 50 more Lightning fighter jets.

Arm four new submarines with US nuclear missiles.


Health
Franchise out key services including hospitals and GP surgeries to companies and charities.

Create voucher system to allow people to opt out of NHS system entirely.

Matrons to run hospitals, not non-clinically trained managers.

Free eye tests and dental checks.

Smoking rooms in pubs.


Welfare
Non means-tested "basic cash benefit" for low earners and unemployed. Jobseekers allowance and incapacity benefit is scrapped.

Child benefit for the first three children only.

No benefits for anyone who has not lived in the UK for five years


Environment
Support coal-fired power and oppose wind farms.

Stop funding UN's climate change panel.

Ban schools from showing Al Gore's film, An Inconvenient Truth.

Incentivise the production of electric cars.

Build 200mph rail lines from London to Newcastle and Exeter.


Thoughts, do you
Support all policies?
Support most policies?
Support some policies?
Support few policies?
Support no policies?

And please no 4 secs comments saying they suck or won't win, were here to discuss what a UKIP Britain would look like & if it'd be good/bad, please post what you like/dislike.
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Re: What a UKIP Britain would look like

Being anti-immigration is not racist. Anyone who thinks UKIP are against people coming here because of skin colour are just absolutely stupid.

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Being anti-immigration is not racist. Anyone who thinks UKIP are against people coming here because of skin colour are just absolutely stupid.
I've always thought that too, don't know what the word to call it is though
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Re: What a UKIP Britain would look like

there's stuff I agree w/them on but they just say generally what the majority of people think. aside from that, they are blatantly a racist party, not nearly as bad as BNP but still a Britain for the British type party. this at least attracts the wrong kind of supporters to their party.

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Re: What a UKIP Britain would look like

Sounds awful.
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Re: What a UKIP Britain would look like

I wouldn't vote for them, but I quite like Nigel Farage, and I like UKIP and the way they represent themselves at least, treating storms in a teacup, just like that... storms in a teacup, because those kind of storms, and media issues and attention come up regularly now in the world, not just about politics and not just about UKIP.

In a way I hope they give a run to the 3 main parties, but we'll see, though I wouldn't want them winning the election, 2nd though, and a bit of difference, something that would prove a few things, but not for me or my ideologies.
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Re: What a UKIP Britain would look like

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there's stuff I agree w/them on but they just say generally what the majority of people think. aside from that, they are blatantly a racist party, not nearly as bad as BNP but still a Britain for the British type party. this at least attracts the wrong kind of supporters to their party.
Where the hell is racist part? Are you talking about the part where they say they will end promotion of multiculturalism?
So let me see, India, Pakistan, Poland, Bangladesh...they all have their own unique cultures and no one's calling them racist for it but if Britain want to have their own unique non-multicultural cultures, it's considered racist? Really?

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Re: What a UKIP Britain would look like

Just populist bullshit they would throw out of the window as soon as they came to power (hypothetically).



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Re: What a UKIP Britain would look like

For the thread, while I like Farage, some of those policies sound pretty bad and actually won't vote for it even if I was British.

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