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Old 03-11-2013, 07:21 AM   #91 (permalink)
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All it really takes is one dumb fuck for a soldier to do something stupid and all hell will break loose. One shot being fired on any side and shit hits the fan. No side is gonna ask questions. Its actions before talking.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:55 AM   #92 (permalink)
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All it really takes is one dumb fuck for a soldier to do something stupid and all hell will break loose. One shot being fired on any side and shit hits the fan. No side is gonna ask questions. Its actions before talking.
The North Korean army has declared invalid the armistice agreement that ended the Korean War in 1953, the official newspaper of the country's ruling Workers'party wrote today. "The U.S. has reduced the armistice agreement to a dead paper," the newspaper said. North Korea has also banned flights over the country and sailing off its east and west coasts.

Are the North Korean guards in Panmunjom (Joint Security Area) still on duty ?



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By Kang Tae-ho, senior staff writer

A grim mood hovers over the Korean Peninsula on Mar. 11, the day North Korea has said it would nullify the Korean War armistice agreement and other inter-Korean non-aggression agreements. North Korean troops were reported to be in a combat mobilization posture, while the South planned to go ahead as scheduled with its Key Resolve combined exercises with the US. As the two sides faced off in a kind of “chicken race” of large-scale military exercises under a pseudo-state of war on the peninsula, many observers are voicing growing fears of a potential clash.

The belligerent conditions date back to March 12, 1993, when North Korea responded to International Atomic Energy Agency demands for special inspections by pulling out of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). Almost twenty years to the day later, both sides are once again issuing rhetoric about “unsparing retribution” and “annihilating the other side’s regime.”

The Key Resolve annual command post exercise, which starts Mar. 11, comes on the heels of the launch of the Foal Eagle field training exercise, which runs from Mar. 1 to end of April and will include land, air, sea, and special operation drills with 200,000 South Korean troops and 10,000 US troops participating. Mar. 11 is also the day North Korea has said it will cut off the current communication channel at Panmunjom and establish combat mobilization readiness with its own large-scale national exercises.

After reports that Hyon Yong-chol, chairman of the (North) Korean People’s Army Joint Chiefs of Staff, accompanied military officials on a Mar. 9 inspection of Panmunjom, the Rodong Sinmun, North Korea’s state newspaper, reported on Mar. 10 that the country’s army, navy, air force, and anti-aircraft units were “just waiting for the final order to attack.” Already, the military there has prepared for national level exercises at a large scale around the Wonson area in Gangwon province, with test launches of existing medium and short-range missiles, as well as new long-range ones. Troops from the army, navy, and air force are scheduled to participate, along with special forces units.

The situation now is ripe for a provocation like the 2010 artillery attack on South Korea‘s Yeonpyeong Island to escalate into all-out war. However, the Kaesong Industrial Complex remains open in North Korea, and the country has continued to refrain from any direct denunciations of President Park Geun-hye. Another faintly positive signal is the fact that the North Korean foreign ministry has not announced any specific actions - such as a nuclear weapons test - in response to United Nations Security Council Resolution 2094.

Despite North Korean threats, operations at the Kaesong Industrial Complex have continued as normal. 522 South Koreans went into the complex on Mar. 11 and 337 reentered South Korea from the North. There are around 780 South Koreans residing in the complex.

This stands in contrast with its reaction to Resolution 2087 on Jan. 23, which was to pledge an immediate “physical response.” Its third nuclear test followed soon after on Feb. 12. But the Mar. 9 foreign ministry statement issued on the latest resolution only mentioned that North Korea plans to make its status as a nuclear and satellite power “permanent,” without any announcements of specific response measures. This suggests that the recent rise in bombastic rhetoric and threats to back out of existing agreements has been accompanied by fewer actual threats of action. Some are tentatively expressing hope that dialogue may well resume again if North Korea avoids additional provocations (including nuclear testing) and the vicious cycle of sanctions leading to provocations can be broken.

Washington and Beijing are also expected to take active steps to respond to the situation. On Mar. 9, Chinese foreign minister Yang Jiechi called for a resolution through dialogue, while Republicans with the US House Committee on Armed Services sent a letter to President Barack Obama urging him to reconsider his North Korea policy. Observers are now saying this heralds an inevitable change in the administration’s course in its second term in office.

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As of 2006, the United States was believed to maintain an arsenal of around 9,960 intact warheads, of which 5,735 were considered active or operational

So it's okay for Murica' to have 5735 nuclear warheads but not okay for NK to have what is it like 6?

Also LOL @ people saying NK have no soldiers every day patrolling the DMZ they have 2 million soldiers deployed compared to SK's 500k they're also allied with China,Russia & Iran hence why Murica' don't want to piss them off
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are some of you really saying they should fucking do it and stop saying they will? you wanna die? you wanna go to war?
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They'll push things right up until the brink of war, and then the U.S. and UN will cave on sanctions which will ease tensions until the next nuclear test by the North and the cycle will continue.

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are some of you really saying they should fucking do it and stop saying they will? you wanna die? you wanna go to war?
They have an almost zero percent chance of actually hitting the continental U.S. The worst they would do is hit Japan or one of our bases in the Pacific and I doubt they would do anything without the full support of China because going against the U.S. alone would ensure their destruction.

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They'll push things right up until the brink of war, and then the U.S. and UN will cave on sanctions which will ease tensions until the next nuclear test by the North and the cycle will continue.


This time, it's viciously different. Kim Jong Un is weaker politically than his father. The military side of NK leadership took power (Juche "bureaucracy" ideology --> Sanggun "military first" ideology) after his father's death. You have to know that Kim Jong Un is a reformist.

He is more politically and economically pragmatic than his dad was. Junior opened the country to chinese and south korean investors (Kaesong special economic area). He changed many things in the country, for example, erasing communist symbols to use nationalist ones instead in Pyongyang. The agricultural sector is better managed and one industrial sector is slowly developping.

In order to push those reforms, he had to give a huge part of the political and economic power to the military. The military nowadays owns large portions of the economy and large territorial areas. Fortunately, the old guard vanished in front of the military elite.

Kim Jong Un is still young (30) and all his power comes from his father and his oncle (his regent). I don't believe that the Kim Junior really leads the country. I think that his oncle and the military have more power than him.

There are still struggles for power in North Korea between the military (reformist and nationalist) and the two other elites : the reformist intellectuals (economists, bureaucrats) and the old political guard.

If you look at various blogs about North Korea :

- http://www.nknews.org/
- http://www.nkeconwatch.com/
- http://nkleadershipwatch.wordpress.com/
- http://kpablogger.tumblr.com/
- http://www.newsfromnorthkorea.com/
- http://www.northkoreatech.org/

You can really understand how difficult Kim Jong Un's position is with the political-military dichotomy of the apparatus.

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North Korea has cut an inter-Korean communication line this morning as U.S-South Korean forces begin a two-week military drill that North Korea says could justify a 'pre-emptive' nuclear strike in response.
Now, he has a lot of risks to "lose his face" and all his power on the country against the old guard. We are in a very dangerous situation. The current tension betweem North Korea and South Korea is the result of internal political tensions inside the North Korean regime which exploded because of Park's election.

Sanctions and military deployements are the worst methods to stabiize the situation. They help the old guard to come back and destroy his already limited influence on the military.

We should better reinforce Kim Jong Un's position !!!

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Where did I say they did? It's all a lot of smoke without the fire, and until a fire is started, then the UN, the US and all its allies, should just sit idly by and wait it out.



Actually it took the Germans to beat the Germans. They should have not tried to cross Russia during the winter.
Sounds morbid, but had they actually impressed (as in forced into service) jews and not killed them, they could have won the war.
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Where did I say they did? It's all a lot of smoke without the fire, and until a fire is started, then the UN, the US and all its allies, should just sit idly by and wait it out.



Actually it took the Germans to beat the Germans. They should have not tried to cross Russia during the winter.
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