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Old 02-10-2013, 02:14 PM   #91 (permalink)
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I find it funny the same pepole who love to say the ICW are not "one thing" lumps all of lapd



ONE guy could of messed up, the others there did not, you do NOT "wait" when shots are fired, the first

What if the women where speeding down and showed no signs of stoping?

I'm not excusing it, never said they justify it just asking why is it that the lapd "messed up" when it was either likely one guy makiong a mistake or the civalns doing something
They were delivering newspapers early in the morning, not speeding toward the cops. If they were going toward them there would have been at least one round in the front of the vehicle. there wasn't. They were all in the back of the truck. You're defending the indefensible.


The guy's obviously a nutjob, just from his ranting letter.. but the cops involved in that shooting need to go to the gas chamber themselves.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:21 PM   #92 (permalink)
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I find it funny the same pepole who love to say the ICW are not "one thing" lumps all of lapd
Comparing a bunch of random people on the internet talking about wrestling to a police force notorious for being crooked and ruining the lives of innocent people? That sounds fair.


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ONE guy could of messed up, the others there did not, you do NOT "wait" when shots are fired, the first
There were AT LEAST 30 bullet holes at the scene. That wasn't just one guy.

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What if the women where speeding down and showed no signs of stoping?
lol. They were delivering newspapers!!! How fast do you think they were going? And the police never identified themselves because all of the shots were on the rear of the truck.

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I'm not excusing it, never said they justify it just asking why is it that the lapd "messed up" when it was either likely one guy makiong a mistake or the civalns doing something
You mean like delivering newspapers in the morning? Shame on them.

And this is no mistake. It's gross incompetence. The LAPD is just proving that Dorner knows too much and they want him dead. That makes things even more suspicious on their part and they look guilty.
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Police seeking Dorner opened fire in a second case of mistaken identity

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David Perdue with his wife, Lyzzette, in their Redondo Beach home; Torrance police fired on his vehicle and rammed it Thursday in a case of mistaken identity. Perdue suffered injuries in the collision but was not hit by gunfire. (Genaro Molina, Los Angeles Times / February 9, 2013)

David Perdue was on his way to sneak in some surfing before work Thursday morning when police flagged him down. They asked who he was and where he was headed, then sent him on his way.

Seconds later, Perdue's attorney said, a Torrance police cruiser slammed into his pickup and officers opened fire; none of the bullets struck Perdue.

His pickup, police later explained, matched the description of the one belonging to Christopher Jordan Dorner — the ex-cop who has evaded authorities after allegedly killing three and wounding two more. But the pickups were different makes and colors. And Perdue looks nothing like Dorner: He's several inches shorter and about a hundred pounds lighter. And Perdue is white; Dorner is black.

"I don't want to use the word buffoonery but it really is unbridled police lawlessness," said Robert Sheahen, Perdue's attorney. "These people need training and they need restraint."

PHOTOS: Manhunt for ex-LAPD officer

The incident involving Perdue was the second time police looking for the fugitive former LAPD officer opened fire on someone else. The shootings have raised concerns that the fear Dorner has instilled has added another layer of danger.

"Nobody trains police officers to look for one of their own," said Maria Haberfeld, a police training professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. "I wouldn't want to be in their shoes and I don't think anybody else would."

Torrance police said the officers who slammed into Perdue were responding to shots fired moments earlier in a nearby area where LAPD officers were standing guard outside the home of someone targeted in an online manifesto that authorities have attributed to Dorner.

In the first incident, LAPD officers opened fire on another pickup they feared was being driven by Dorner. The mother and daughter inside the truck were delivering Los Angeles Times newspapers. The older woman was shot twice in the back and the other was wounded by broken glass.

In Perdue's case, his attorney said he wasn't struck by bullets or glass but was injured in the car wreck, suffering a concussion and an injury to his shoulder. The LAX baggage handler hasn't been able to work since, and his car is totaled, Sheahen said.

"When Torrance issues this ridiculous statement saying he wasn't injured, all they mean is he wasn't killed," his attorney said, referring to a press release reporting "no visible injuries" to Perdue.

DOCUMENT: Chief Beck's statement regarding Dorner

A department spokesman said Saturday that the shooting is still under investigation. In a statement to The Times, the department said: "The circumstances of the incident known to the responding officers would have led a reasonable officer under normal circumstances — and these were far from normal circumstances — to believe that fellow officers were being shot at and that the vehicle traveling toward them posed a serious risk.

"In the split seconds available to them," the statement continued, "action was appropriate to intervene and stop the actions of the driver of that vehicle."

According to the police department, Perdue's car was headed directly for one of their patrol vehicles and appeared not to be yielding. When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds.

The Torrance police chief apologized to Perdue and offered him a rental car and payment for his medical expenses, the statement said.

Similarly, an LAPD spokesman said Saturday that Chief Charlie Beck will provide a new truck to the two women injured by officers in pursuit of Dorner.

Cmdr. Andrew Smith said he and Beck met separately with the two women Saturday. The truck will be purchased using money from donors, Smith said.

FULL COVERAGE: The manhunt for Christopher Dorner

The action does not necessarily preclude a lawsuit from the women or a settlement. The women's attorney, Glen T. Jonas, said, "The family appreciates that Chief Beck apologized on behalf of the LAPD."

The search for Dorner has spanned the region, with authorities hoping they had tracked Dorner down in Big Bear only for the trail to go cold there. His alleged campaign to take revenge on those he blamed for his dismissal from the LAPD has stoked fears among local police, many of whom are involved in the search. The sense of chaos has been amplified by police around the state and beyond being forced to chase down bogus leads and erroneous sightings.

Connie Rice, a civil rights attorney, said it's not surprising when police make mistakes during manhunts.

"They don't know where he is, and they're going to be edgy and jumpy," she said. "Don't get in their way. They're in a special state of consciousness right now, and they're not used to being hunted."

Perdue's attorneys said their client was shot at without warning.

"As you know, officers of the Torrance Police Department attempted to kill Mr. Perdue" Thursday, the attorneys wrote in a letter to the agency's chief.

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Times staff writer Richard Winton contributed to this report.
they really really want this dude to die.
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Just like the 2 women delivering newspapers didn't deserve to get hounded with bullets by the LAPD.
So because of that he's justified in killing innocent cops and people that he is DELIBERATELY targeting, as opposed to accidental.
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They were delivering newspapers early in the morning, not speeding toward the cops. If they were going toward them there would have been at least one round in the front of the vehicle. there wasn't. They were all in the back of the truck. You're defending the indefensible.


The guy's obviously a nutjob, just from his ranting letter.. but the cops involved in that shooting need to go to the gas chamber themselves.
So maybe they speed past the cops and did not heed warningS? (possible they did not hear and or where scared)

maybe one guy saw one of them throwing out a newspaper?
or reaching back in the window for something


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You mean like delivering newspapers in the morning? Shame on them.
Cut the crap, you have NO idea what happen, its possible (unlikely) that they had a shotgun and fucking opened fired dont tell me "they where just delivering newspapers" as if that means there is no way at all in anyway they could of done something wrong becuse when your deliving newspapers its impossible to do stuff wrong


And I find it more likely it was one guy, maybe a rookie, makign a mistake, saw one of them made a suden move and freaked, and when he shot evrey one else, not knowing where it came form and trusting their fellow person like they are trained to opened fire
Hell its possible ONE of them fucking forgot his safty and finer sliped as he was nevours, stupid? oh yeah
should he be fired? hell yeah

it DONT mean they have a "hidden agenda"
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As an european I didn't know the LAPD has a reputation as bad as they obsiously have. This story got my interest big time and I follow it closely on different news outlets. So I wonder, do you guys think this whole story will bring any changes in the LAPD withit?
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So because of that he's justified in killing innocent cops and people that he is DELIBERATELY targeting, as opposed to accidental.
No one is justified in killing anyone - accidental or with intent - in this situation unless it is the police taking out a suspect that is properly identified and in the process of causing harm to civilians. However, the end result of Dorner shooting someone and the police shooting someone will be the cause of one of two things: injury or death. There is no difference. That is the point.

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As an european I didn't know the LAPD has a reputation as bad as they obsiously have. This story got my interest big time and I follow it closely on different news outlets. So I wonder, do you guys think this whole story will bring any changes in the LAPD withit?
The only changes that will come from this are tactical learning procedures I think. There will always be rogue cops and there will always be good cops. It's just the way things are and will always be.

Anyway, there are now civilians riding around California in trucks with posterboard on the back of the windows that read: "DON'T SHOOT! NOT DORNER! THANK YOU!". :yodawg

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Have they found him, I heard theres a million dollar reward. Any of you guys wanna come together and take him out I'll just use Clairvoyance and find out where he is.

The conspiracy theorists will have tons of material now since it seems like they really want this guy dead. Just dont get how cops can just shoot at vehicles without identifying who is in the car. Shit looks like a possible movie for real. Someone said Anthony Anderson but I'd have Forest Whitaker play him.

But seriously hopefully noone else dies there, must be hard as hell knowing this guy is loose and possibly insane or just crazy.
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Have they found him, I heard theres a million dollar reward. Any of you guys wanna come together and take him out I'll just use Clairvoyance and find out where he is.

The conspiracy theorists will have tons of material now since it seems like they really want this guy dead. Just dont get how cops can just shoot at vehicles without identifying who is in the car. Shit looks like a possible movie for real. Someone said Anthony Anderson but I'd have Forest Whitaker play him.

But seriously hopefully noone else dies there, must be hard as hell knowing this guy is loose and possibly insane or just crazy.
Excellent casting call. As much as I like Anthony Anderson, I wouldn't be able to take him seriously in a role like that. Forest Whitaker, on the other hand, would be much more believable.
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Excellent casting call. As much as I like Anthony Anderson, I wouldn't be able to take him seriously in a role like that. Forest Whitaker, on the other hand, would be much more believable.
Nope, Whitaker is to old. How about The Rock?
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