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Yamada_Taro 01-20-2013 05:03 AM

Are you afraid for Obama's oath ?
 
I think that no US president has never been so impopular among the owners of weapons. Even if 2/3 of Americans consider his new measures against gun violence as "reasonable". His public oath ceremony will happen tommorow (The 21th of january). I personally had nightmares about it, especially after the last NRA video I saw on their website.


NRA President: Obama Violating His Oath as President & Trying to Build an ‘Imperial Presidency’

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NRA President David Keene appeared on the Jay Severin Show today on TheBlaze radio network to discuss the president’s push for gun control, and immediately went for the jugular in describing President Obama’s agenda.

“This really is, in terms of the Second Amendment, this is it. This is the battle that we’ve been concerned about. It’s the war that we knew was coming, and it’s the war we warned people about as we approached this last fall’s election,” Keene told Severin. “[Obama's] been an anti-Second Amendment activist as a private citizen, as a state legislator, as a United States Senator, and then tried to cloak it all during his campaigns because he was afraid of the backlash from those who are strong second amendment supporters. Now that he’s elected – reelected – and he doesn’t have to face the voters again, he’s indicated a willingness to do what he’s always wanted to do, which is to gut the Second Amendment.”

“Do you have any doubt that President Obama’s and his political base’s goal is to at least severely diminish and, more likely, effectively abolish Second Amendment rights?” Severin asked.

“I don’t think there’s any question about that. You know, in the past, he has said, both publicly and privately, that he doesn’t believe any American has a right as a private citizen to own any kind of a firearm,” Keene replied. “He’s voted for, at lower levels, legislation that would’ve abolished anything except a single-fire shotgun rifle. He’s said that handguns should not be manufactured, sold, traded or owned or possessed in the United States. This is not a fellow who’s interested in nipping at the fringes of the Second Amendment. This is a fellow who, if he has his druthers, would drive a stake right into the heart of the right to private ownership of firearms in this country, and of the second amendment to our Constitution.”

Severin followed up, “As President of the NRA, in your opinion, is this President honoring his oath to protect, preserve and defend the Constitution?”

Keene didn’t even miss a beat. “No, he’s not, because he claims, as you saw yesterday, that he believes in the second amendment. He said that during the campaign. That’s bunkum. The fact of the matter is he’s never believed in the second amendment as it’s been interpreted, or as it was written, and if his oath requires him to defend the Constitution as it exists, rather than as he might wish it had been written, then he’s violating it.”

Severin followed up on this forceful attack by Keene by asking if articles of impeachment should be brought against Obama for his issuance of Executive Orders regarding guns. Keene demurred, saying he wasn’t sure Congress would have to go that far, but did lambaste Obama for constantly trying to circumvent Congress, and for wanting to rule the United States as though it were China.

“This is a President who is trying to build the Imperial presidency that liberals have always claimed Republicans and conservatives would like to build. He’s doing it. He’s going around the Congress,” Keene said.

You can listen to the most relevant chunk of Keene’s interview with Severin below (in the link) :

Source : http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...al-presidency/


NRA members from various states received two emails unofficialy asking them to go to Washington D.C on the 21th. It seems they are preparing one huge "March on Washington". Thousands of NRA members will attend Obama's oath. Even if District of Columbia prohibits both concealed and open carry, I think they will try to take their weapons with them ...

Two questions :

- What's your opinion about this explosive situation ?
- Could Obama use one staged assassination attempt to ban all guns ?

Let's debate rationally.

Chi Town Punk 01-20-2013 05:22 AM

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reDREDD 01-20-2013 06:08 AM

Re: Are you afraid for Obama's oath ?
 
the purpose of the 2nd amendment is more or less to preserve all the others

ironically, we've lost every single freedom without a fight, but kept the guns

how ironic

Yamada_Taro 01-20-2013 09:49 AM

Re: Are you afraid for Obama's oath ?
 
I just saw this question on twitter, it's trending :

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Is it real that Obama will be "victim" (only injured) of one staged assassination attempt tomorrow in order to ban all guns ?
Clever public and political manipulation, if it happens. :gun:

NRA and guns owners were stupid enough to dig their own graves with some hateful comments and death threats, like the video that Punk's #1 Fan posted.

If Obama pulled that off, he could easily ban guns and dissolve NRA, everybody will welcome and accept it.

reDREDD 01-20-2013 09:54 AM

Re: Are you afraid for Obama's oath ?
 
people really overestimate obama

no, he will not abolish guns and then declare himself king

but, people need to wake the fuck up and hold onto their freedom before its too late

Striker 01-20-2013 10:08 AM

Re: Are you afraid for Obama's oath ?
 
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Originally Posted by Redead (Post 12848210)
the purpose of the 2nd amendment is more or less to preserve all the others

ironically, we've lost every single freedom without a fight, but kept the guns

how ironic

We? You don't live in the GOAT country.

What rights stated in the Bill of Rights have been lost? Interested to hear what freedoms we have lost.

Oakue 01-20-2013 10:12 AM

Re: Are you afraid for Obama's oath ?
 
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Originally Posted by Redead (Post 12853322)
people really overestimate obama

no, he will not abolish guns and then declare himself king

but, people need to wake the fuck up and hold onto their freedom before its too late

Oh geeze...

:kobe

Why there is a constant battle call for "we're losing our freedoms" and "tyranny" in America I don't understand. And I don't mean present day either. This is something that has always occurred and always been said since the dawn of the republic. Hell a damn civil war was fought over it.

It's like a mutated gene in the American experience, to always be paranoid that being shipped off to a concentration camp and enslaved is just a day away. I don't get it.

Stax Classic 01-20-2013 10:13 AM

Re: Are you afraid for Obama's oath ?
 
I'd be more afraid if I had to sit through the coming shit storm in person for 5 hours, damn bag of hot air

reDREDD 01-20-2013 10:18 AM

Re: Are you afraid for Obama's oath ?
 
Freedom of speech gets infringed upon at times, but the bigger concern is the government overstepping its bounds. The privacy of the citizens thanks to the wire tapping of the previous administration which continues into the current one. The NDAA which again robs the citizens of their privacy, enabling them access to all your online information. Before the cops and government need good cause, now they just can just infringe your privacy and rights as they please.

And dont get me started on the patriot act and the others. Apparently the right to a trial goes straight out the window when the government comes for your sorry ass

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...o_protect.html

TaylorFitz 01-20-2013 10:25 AM

Re: Are you afraid for Obama's oath ?
 
No I'm not worried that somebody is going to kill him. We have an entire federal agency that's main purpose is to make sure the President is safe at all times. Also anyone that thinks rational would know that shooting Obama would be the worst thing they could possibly do in regards to stopping gun control.

As far mt opinion on the Second Amendment goes the Constitution makes it pretty clear to me. I don't really understand how any type of legislation that restricts the types of guns people can buy or in anyway limits what they can posses in regards t guns could be considered anything but Unconstitutional.


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