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post #31 of 69 (permalink) Old 01-19-2013, 10:49 PM
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Re: Employers Looking At Facebook...My Story

Why can't people just keep things to themselves? I don't see how people gain anything by sharing every detail about their lives. Discretion is valuable.
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post #32 of 69 (permalink) Old 01-19-2013, 11:04 PM
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Re: Employers Looking At Facebook...My Story

I actually agree with the VP. Perhaps you need to refresh your business ideology. There is entire courses based around social network responsibility.

It boils down to this. Is there any issue with not getting along with your boss, and complaining about it to friends and family? No.

Is there something wrong with using a public channel that can be seen by the entire world to make comments about your boss? Absolutely. You can NOT do that. What if the boss wasn't actually hitting on her, she just misunderstood. And now here she is, damaging his reputation on the internet open to billions of people if they truly wanted to see it.

Like I said, if you wanna complain to a family member or a friend, fill your boots. But do not post your grievances to the public, it WILL come back to bite you in the ass.

What would the shit storm be like if the VP posted on FB that he has ungrateful employees who need to learn their place. I guarantee people wouldn't be looking at it from the "He has the right to say it" stand point. It's unprofessional business conduct to use social media in such a manner.


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What kind of idiot has there facebook privacy settings viewable to people other than their friends anyways? My friends who want to add me, can't even find me on facebook, I gotta find them.


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That's my main problem with this. This could've been easily avoided by the girl putting her posts on private. This would've never been a problem.


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I think it's wrong that companies spy on people through social networks, but if people are stupid enough to post certain things and disregard privacy settings, then they're probably not smart enough to keep their jobs. If it's something they can't say to their boss's face, then they probably shouldn't say it and risk their position... Unless they're positive they can get a better position in another company that pays more.
Do you know how many people have gotten in trouble at work because they posted pictures of themselves totally sloshed at a weekend party?


It's fucking dumb shit like that I have a problem with. Some people get in trouble for merely having a bottle of beer in their hand because the assumption is that this person is some fucking drunk when that could have very well been their first, and only, beer the entire night, but, people see a picture and form a conclusion.


Your personal life if your personal life. I get that venting on a social network doesn't make it as private/personal of a life anymore, but, still, you're away from work and if donkeycock at work is being a faggot, people should be able to post about it. Maybe if he sees it, he'll tuck his imaginary 10 inch dick in his pants and realize he is only a 2.


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I've been called out on something I put on Twitter when I was in my first job after school. It was something about complaining about the unrealistic target the store had set for the day's trade. I didn't mention numbers, I didn't name names, I just said it was stupid and mentioned the company's name in the same tweet and they found it through that.

No hashtags, mentions, I didn't have anyone following me that I worked with either. They just found it and gave an official warning or whatever. It was fucking bullshit.

There has to be a limit to what is considered "having the right to say what you want" too. Like I'd probably fire someone that worked for me if they went home every night and wrote shit about me personally or the company as a whole on a frequent basis. It can get the point where it's just straight slander and it kills the company's image.

With that being said I think it's unfair to warn or fire someone for comments they make outside of work. If they are tweeting those things at work or saying shit on Facebook while at work I see it as whatever problem they have effecting what they are paid to do, which is when it becomes a problem from my perspective and should be dealt with by the employer.

My solution is to tell my co-workers I don't have any social networking sites so they don't bother looking for me. When I worked in retail I've seen kids get fired for taking selfies at work and posting them on instagram etc.

It's all down to a bit of common sense on both sides really.
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I know for a fact that as an employee of the Department of Education, we are bound by an official code of conduct to not refer to any member of staff, or particular students, using social media. There is a huge contention about having parents or relatives of children on there as a contact, because shit can really hit the fan. A friend of mine got investigated by the commission because he'd posted stuff about how he hated certain children in his grade that he was teaching on.

As far as my two cents go, there is a time and a place to vent about work. People will ignore the 1000 positives anytime they see a negative. My general guideline is to use FB to solely post about sports, current affairs, and pleasant experiences. I also need to be mindful of photos posted on my account, as these can be conceived 'poor nature' and a violation of being a respectable employee. If I have to sook or whinge about a student or colleague, I'll do it down the pub with close mates over a few cold ones.
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I know when I worked at Giant, it basically said in bold print...now I'm paraphrasing of course..but "If we find out you talked shit about the company, or disclose anything, your DONE!". I never really gave a fuck because the job was cool, but they do make you sign some kind of waiver, or at least they did in my case.
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That's the key. Should.

Should is not what it is in reality.

"Should" is what Cat posted. However, that is not reality. The reality is that if you post something incriminating about a co-worker/boss/workplace in a public forum, you're gonna get in trouble.

What kind of consequence was he looking to instill? Termination? Verbal warning? Suspension? As I wrote earlier, if there is something about harassment/disparaging a co-worker in a contract or policy then he could easily fire her because calling him creepy and whatever else would fit under that. He has more than enough cause to let her go (and if you guys have no contracts, in the eyes of the law he is still justified. If it is an at-will employment kind of deal, he wouldn't even have to use the "she called the VP a creep" out, he could fire her just for the fuck of it).

If it was going to be a verbal warning, I would have just done it. Now it sounds like you have escalated the situation and there is the potential that it could cost both of you your jobs (which may be fine for you, but does she have 3 options she could go to at the drop of a hat?).

If it was termination or you could tell he was leaning that way, then disregard the above and fight what you think is worth fighting for.
The young lady that works for me has been hit on by this VP, as well as a couple of her friends. She has rebuffed his advances, not interested, etc. For months he has been aware of her FB page. She and her girlfriends saw him at the gentlemen's club completely making a fool of himself, it reached the point apparently that the dancers started getting creeped out and the bouncer had to come over and tell him to relax. Now, all of a sudden, the FB is an issue because the VP basically shit all over himself.

To me, it's not the fact she's been doing this, it's the fact the VP now doesn't like what was said and he's now looking for a pound of flesh for this and being rebuffed by her and her friends. It's more than just protecting her, this guy is WAY overstepping his boundaries. He is also a bully and wants to have his way, and when he doesn't he turns on you in a heartbeat. He wants to fire her for this, but trying to be all smooth at the same time about it and wanting me to do his dirty work for him.

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I know for a fact that as an employee of the Department of Education, we are bound by an official code of conduct to not refer to any member of staff, or particular students, using social media. There is a huge contention about having parents or relatives of children on there as a contact, because shit can really hit the fan. A friend of mine got investigated by the commission because he'd posted stuff about how he hated certain children in his grade that he was teaching on.
Difference between the two situations is that obviously your contract states you have to be careful of what you put out there. I know common sense should dictate that automatically that should be the case, but to me if there's nothing in writing about this then it's a non-issue.



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I got banned from Facebook. Its pretty cool.

If you look my name up on facebook you just get like 40 dillholes that share my name and not me.

Get banned from Facebook so the content doesn't show up.
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