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Old 01-19-2013, 09:07 PM   #21 (permalink)
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This is not government obviously, it's private sector.

It's simple...what I do outside of work should not be up for scrutiny unless what I'm doing is illegal or puts the company in a negative light. Example...if I go to a casino and do my thing...shouldn't be an issue. It would be an issue if I am on a work-related business trip, stop in a casino, and get into a fight and arrested. I don't have FB or Twitter, partly because I'd have situation where I'd deal with a lot of people I don't know and don't care to know.

Is this a hill to die on? If need be, yes. My company has no regulations in regards to FB or Twitter usage outside the workplace. She's 22 and not necessarily the most mature, but she does a good job for me and her personal life doesn't affect her job. I can live with being called boring because I don't go out and party with them. This VP is being a jerkwad about the whole thing and he is abusing his power. I will not be bullied or intimidated, period.
That's the key. Should.

Should is not what it is in reality.

"Should" is what Cat posted. However, that is not reality. The reality is that if you post something incriminating about a co-worker/boss/workplace in a public forum, you're gonna get in trouble.

What kind of consequence was he looking to instill? Termination? Verbal warning? Suspension? As I wrote earlier, if there is something about harassment/disparaging a co-worker in a contract or policy then he could easily fire her because calling him creepy and whatever else would fit under that. He has more than enough cause to let her go (and if you guys have no contracts, in the eyes of the law he is still justified. If it is an at-will employment kind of deal, he wouldn't even have to use the "she called the VP a creep" out, he could fire her just for the fuck of it).

If it was going to be a verbal warning, I would have just done it. Now it sounds like you have escalated the situation and there is the potential that it could cost both of you your jobs (which may be fine for you, but does she have 3 options she could go to at the drop of a hat?).

If it was termination or you could tell he was leaning that way, then disregard the above and fight what you think is worth fighting for.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:10 PM   #22 (permalink)
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^I'm on the fence too. I think people should be able to say whatever they want on their facebook pages. But at the same time, I think people really should just keep things to themselves sometimes. It isn't good to make your company look bad in public. Plus you should be able to figure out that talking negatively about the people who sign your paycheck is a bad idea. Some people like to blab about the silliest things, and then they're suprised when it blows up in their faces. Still, it's their facebook.

As you can see, this a very conflicting issue for be.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:10 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Anyone who judges a person entirely off of a social network without seeing their work ethic is a fucking dipshit. Some company is going to fire a guy who never takes a sick day, is never late, never causes trouble, is basically THE guy driving the company, because he comes home one night and talks about how fucking shitty some asshole at work was that day? That right there is just fucking nitpicky bullshit. Let people say what they want off the clock.
If someone says something that's offensive or might make the company's image look bad, they have every right to reprimand that person. Besides people should know by now that putting anything on the internet will travel pretty quickly.
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I don't care. Surely if you are going to post about work you would have the intelligence and foresight to ensure the message is friends only. Takes like, a button click to do.

Is this girl's laziness to click a button worth you having to change jobs? Well that's for you to decide.
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If someone says something that's offensive or might make the company's image look bad, they have every right to reprimand that person. Besides people should know by now that putting anything on the internet will travel pretty quickly.
If someone is talking shit about the company itself, I can understand concern about it. You're scaring off potential customers/clients.

If you are badmouthing someone, I don't think it is a cause for anything, really, especially if the name of the company is not being said, which it usually isn't, it's just people complaining that so and so is a fucking dick.

He should stop being a creepy fuck then if he doesn't want to be called creepy.
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:26 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Why? a boss is generally not a friend. Be assed having some knobhead of a higher position judge me on my sketchy weekends and statuses about how i can't get in my dress cause of burger overload and wanting to call the police cause i can't find my wine opener.
It's not on private and it's for anybody with internet access (or facebook access) to read. Why shouldn't he be viewing the profile and reading the posts? If it was an invasion of personal space then it wouldn't be out there like that. Nobody has to add him as a friend if they don't want to, and there's options to make this stuff private. Hell, you can make posts non-visible to certain friends, can't you? And like I already said - he can read it all he wants to but shouldn't punish anybody by what they write on there (depending whether or not it is a photo of TNT with "I will bomb the HQ" for real).

It's just so stupid to me that anybody would write this stuff without it being private. If you have nothing to hide then who cares, but if you're trashing a co-worker....well shit, keep that low-key. They could easily look at it whenever they want. You make a facebook profile that's accessible to anyone. People will look at it.
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If someone is talking shit about the company itself, I can understand concern about it. You're scaring off potential customers/clients.

If you are badmouthing someone, I don't think it is a cause for anything, really, especially if the name of the company is not being said, which it usually isn't, it's just people complaining that so and so is a fucking dick.

He should stop being a creepy fuck then if he doesn't want to be called creepy.
If someone posts something really offensive or incriminating like the woman who wanted the President to be assassinated then obviously the person should be fired. However, if someone just says something about a co-worker without using his or her name then it shouldn't be a big deal.
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I think it's wrong that companies spy on people through social networks, but if people are stupid enough to post certain things and disregard privacy settings, then they're probably not smart enough to keep their jobs. If it's something they can't say to their boss's face, then they probably shouldn't say it and risk their position... Unless they're positive they can get a better position in another company that pays more.
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It's not on private and it's for anybody with internet access (or facebook access) to read. Why shouldn't he be viewing the profile and reading the posts? If it was an invasion of personal space then it wouldn't be out there like that. Nobody has to add him as a friend if they don't want to, and there's options to make this stuff private. Hell, you can make posts non-visible to certain friends, can't you? And like I already said - he can read it all he wants to but shouldn't punish anybody by what they write on there (depending whether or not it is a photo of TNT with "I will bomb the HQ" for real).

It's just so stupid to me that anybody would write this stuff without it being private. If you have nothing to hide then who cares, but if you're trashing a co-worker....well shit, keep that low-key. They could easily look at it whenever they want. You make a facebook profile that's accessible to anyone. People will look at it.
Hell, it's not even like she was burying someone on her level.

Shit talking her bosses boss? Taking shots at the Vice President of the company?

The lack of common sense makes me question how she got the job in the first place. Yeah she's 22, but one can only blame stuff on the ignorance and hubris of youth so many times. She's 22, not 12. She should know better. She made a mistake and we all do but it is a pretty big no-no to shit talk the VP of your company.

It would be like in elementary school someone being on the playground talking shit about the Vice Principal and being shocked when they got in trouble.

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Old 01-19-2013, 09:39 PM   #30 (permalink)
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At the end of the day, just about everyone has heard news about people getting fired for stuff they said on facebook. It's not like this a brand new issue. People should know better by now. Either stop being lazy and set your posts on private, or just don't post anything that will get you in trouble. It isn't fair, but it's reality. Get used to it, or get the hell out.
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