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Old 01-02-2013, 09:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Was just bored in my apartment randomly thinking about this shit now i know you won't have an answer but what do you think are possible ways?
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I actually asked myself this once,Then I just continued getting high.
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Energy came from the mass at the beginning of the universe(E=MC^2, the rapid expansion, yada yada), the question is where that mass came from.
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The pre-Socratic Greek philosopher Parmenides taught that the only things that are real are things which never change... and the pre-Socratic Greek philosopher Heraclitus taught that everything changes. If you superimpose their two views, you get this result: Nothing is real.

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Personally, I'm of the belief it came from the collision between 2 other universes, and created our own.
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Personally, I'm of the belief it came from the collision between 2 other universes, and created our own.
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Obviously it's because of the old universe, the one Galactus came from originally.
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In no way do I mean to offend you, but if you think about what you typed it's very obvious the problem. You can't have "nothing" come from "nowhere". Those are concepts created by the human mind that are only expressions of how we interact as human beings. There has, and always was "something". People often forget that something like sound, or vibration exist. Since time is irrelevant, and we know that what are in, and it's surroundings have been around far longer than we can really explain. This is why the idea of time becomes irrelevant.

When you look out in to space, minus the planets, galaxies, Red Dwarfs, black holes, and solar systems it's a black void of "space". Matter, be it dark, or not has always been. There was, and is no starting point for anything outside of the "birth" state. Time didn't begin until we created it. Meaning to life didn't really surface until our brains evolved to understand what conscious existence really meant to us. Emotions, feelings, attitudes, and behaviors evolved with conscious experience. You are immortal, and so is everything around you. There was never a beginning, but merely an explanation as to why you are alive.
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Lawerence M.Krauss wrote a book about it, based on a lecture he gave at a university, that is why is there something rather than nothing. He makes the argument something was bound to "exist" and nothing would not continue to be nothing.
From my very little understanding of particle physics, particles gain mass when they pass through Higgs field. So in addition to masses and energy, you also need to think about effect of energies and forces, the fields.
Basically, things interact with other things and then we get something. They are making concepts of masses and energy more complex in physics.
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