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Old 10-20-2012, 07:45 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Everybody in an uproar, wanting to protest and Be A Star needs to realize that bullying will never end. Especially when parents raise their children as weak, little pussies.


But, this case is different. It's a disabled person and I have sympathy for that. But I have no sorrow for the 14 year old, healthy as can be, who gets his ass kicked daily because he's scared of getting punished when he gets home and forbidden to play World Of Warcraft. Thats him and his parents problem, not mine.
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:07 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I think some parents just generally suck by raising their kids to take shit instead of standing up for themselves. They can't grow up their whole life being walked over and pushed around. Some kids don't know any better and those who do grow up fast. Schools should have classes for children up to middle-school to build their self-esteem and know how to deal with bullying instead of the "tell somebody" tactic. Sure, telling somebody might help out a little bit, but if the problem persists there's only so much that telling can do.

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Old 10-20-2012, 08:17 PM   #44 (permalink)
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That's true, some don't. From what I understand and see, the problem childs from high-school are the ones that live hard and fast. In addition, they are the ones most guilty of immaturity.
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Bullying causes more harm than it does good. The kids who are getting bullied could develop psychological problems later in life, and some might resort to suicide. Bullies aren't future mentors. If bullies continue with their ways into adulthood, then they will most likely develop into future thugs. Would I rather live in a nation full of "pussies" or in a large ghetto area that is called a nation?

Anyone who defends the bullies in this situation with the disabled woman is a pure asshole.
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Everybody in an uproar, wanting to protest and Be A Star needs to realize that bullying will never end.
They don't need to realize anything. It's not so different to any other cause like animal rights or environmentalism. People strongly believe in this stuff, and are trying to speak out against it. So let them.

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Especially when parents raise their children as weak, little pussies.
Try raising a kid yourself before your comment on parenting. There's a lot more to be considered then how a parent raises their kid. You try teaching a kid to deal with a group of about 4 or 5 kids that are bullying him/her. It's not so easy to talk tough when you've got 4 or 5 guys punching and kicking you is it? or just making your life a living hell, and the fact that you call people pussies is exactly the type of mentality of bully. As I already said, the people who just ignore it and don't care are just as bad as the bullies themselves.

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But, this case is different. It's a disabled person and I have sympathy for that. But I have no sorrow for the 14 year old, healthy as can be, who gets his ass kicked daily because he's scared of getting punished when he gets home and forbidden to play World Of Warcraft. Thats him and his parents problem, not mine.
I don't know about a kid being scared about being punished, but a kid being scared in general because he/she is being bullied by a group of kids or something. That's completely understandable. You can't expect every 14 year old boy to be a big macho man with a black belt in kickboxing or something. As for blaming the parents, even though I already touched on this above. A parent can only do so much, and so what if a kid wasn't raised to be a tough guy. Doesn't mean it should be an excuse for people like you to turn a blind eye to it. Some kids are just naturally peaceful and non confrontational, and in most cases it's not because of the parents that they're like that. I knew a kid who was quite shy and quiet when he was a kid and it wasn't because of his parents, he was just like that. You can't prepare for something like that. What about autistic kids, or kids who have other anti-social traits or are just socially awkward. Like I said, there's more things to consider when it comes to bullying, not just how long your dick is.

So you don't have sympathy with a 14 year old who's getting bullied eh? So how would you feel when that 14 year old decides to kill himself or the so called bully. Like I said in an earlier post. Bullying can lead to a lot of problems, psychologically. People who are bullied can turn bad, and do some drastic stuff.
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I don't know about a kid being scared about being punished, but a kid being scared in general because he/she is being bullied by a group of kids or something. That's completely understandable. You can't expect every 14 year old boy to be a big macho man with a black belt in kickboxing or something. As for blaming the parents, even though I already touched on this above. A parent can only do so much, and so what if a kid wasn't raised to be a tough guy. Doesn't mean it should be an excuse for people like you to turn a blind eye to it. Some kids are just naturally peaceful and non confrontational, and in most cases it's not because of the parents that they're like that. I knew a kid who was quite shy and quiet when he was a kid and it wasn't because of his parents, he was just like that. You can't prepare for something like that. What about autistic kids, or kids who have other anti-social traits or are just socially awkward. Like I said, there's more things to consider when it comes to bullying, not just how long your dick is.

So you don't have sympathy with a 14 year old who's getting bullied eh? So how would you feel when that 14 year old decides to kill himself or the so called bully. Like I said in an earlier post. Bullying can lead to a lot of problems, psychologically. People who are bullied can turn bad, and do some drastic stuff.
I wouldn't feel bad. I sure wouldn't lose sleep. The problems bullying creates are not problems I have to face. Life throws you tons of hurdles, that you have to find a way to overcome. The only 2 choices in regards to bullying are fight back or continue being the victim. So, is there really a winning outcome? However, I'd rather put a bully in his place, instead of moping around, looking for a white knight to fight my battles or gain sympathy from my peers. Either way, don't sit back & be a punk because if you're getting bullied, it's your problem, not the rest of the world's. And only you will be able to take care of the problem.

In the case of a disabled woman, thats just wrong. She can't physically defend herself and in that case, she needs a white knight. But a kid, fearful of potential punishment or consequences, I have no sympathy. It all comes from within and blame goes equally to the bully, the bullied and the parents of both, as it's there job to step in and prevent, not mine. They should be more involved in their kids lives.
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I wouldn't feel bad. I sure wouldn't lose sleep. The problems bullying creates are not problems I have to face. Life throws you tons of hurdles, that you have to find a way to overcome. The only 2 choices in regards to bullying are fight back or continue being the victim. So, is there really a winning outcome? However, I'd rather put a bully in his place, instead of moping around, looking for a white knight to fight my battles or gain sympathy from my peers. Either way, don't sit back & be a punk because if you're getting bullied, it's your problem, not the rest of the world's. And only you will be able to take care of the problem.
(1)In regards to the first three sentences. Since it's not your problem, I can only guess that you don't care about anything if it's not your problem, because it's not something you have to face yourself. So if you see someone getting beat up in the street, you'd just walk away right. Not your problem, even if a person was kicked to death or something, you wouldn't care that you allowed someone to be killed. If you can physically stop it, but wouldn't then that's pretty despicable. But if you only mean this in reference to bullying, well it's still the same thing really.

(2)As far as life throwing us hurdles goes. We get enough shit thrown at us as it goes, making a silly excuse like bullying is just another life hurdle that has to be overcome, is a lazy way of thinking. If it can be prevented, then it should simple as, and it's not so easy to just overcome, it depends on the circumstances.

(3)As for the final part. We're just going to have to agree to disagree i'm afraid, because I just don't believe that. I already said, if it can be prevented it should, and I also said that some circumstances of bullying can't be helped by the individual involved, sometimes outside assistance is needed, and has helped in matters of bullying in the past.

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In the case of a disabled woman, thats just wrong. She can't physically defend herself and in that case, she needs a white knight. But a kid, fearful of potential punishment or consequences, I have no sympathy. It all comes from within and blame goes equally to the bully, the bullied and the parents of both, as it's there job to step in and prevent, not mine. They should be more involved in their kids lives.
You already said that in your other post, but as I already said. Some kids might be socially awkward or something that might make them a target of bullying and stop them from being able to overcome bullying yourselves. As for the parents stepping in, for once I agree with you. It is up to the parents to step in a prevent it, both the victim and the bully's parents. But also the teacher and authority figures in the schools as well, as parents are not around their kids 24/7. But even so, it still doesn't justify ignoring it if it doesn't concern you, because if it can be stopped it should.
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She probably deserved it, but if it was unprovoked then who knows.
How did you get to that conclusion? "She probably deserved it"? Someone who wastes a bit of her daytime to educate kids on alcoholic driving deserved it? You did improve lately I must admit, but your logic never ceases to make me face-palm sometimes.


Anyway, BULLY is right to an extent. Bullying really is a part of life and growing up; in some cases that is. You can't just let someone else deal with all your problems all the time, and asking someone for help and advice, if you do that you will never amount to any objectives and goals you have in your mind. You gotta face and deal with most of your problems, enemies, and fears by yourself, that's how you turn into a much better and respected human being. Cutting it short, you will end up being a quitter.

However, in some cases like someone here has stated before, it shouldn't be ignored. If we started ignoring all of these issues, society would be in a even shittier place than it is right now.
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What a stupid thing to say. To just accept Bullying as a normal thing is absurd and quite frankly idiotic. Not doing kids of tomorrow any favors? That's the biggest loads of shite I ever heard. You're not doing kids of tomorrow any favors by turning a blind eye to it and accepting it either. In fact you're doing worse, because studies have shown that bullying has led psychological problems. I'm sure you've often heard about people killing themselves, or killing others from being bullied. Hell look at the fucking Coloumbine Massacre. It's a serious issue of today, and not something that should be brushed aside as growing up. There's no growing up involved i'm afraid.

Now I'm not saying bullying doesn't happen, it can happen anywhere. But that doesn't mean it should be ignored. Should cops stop enforcing the law because crime never ends? There's an old saying "Evil prevails when good fails to act" that saying could be used in context with bullying. It's an evil act and should not be ignored.
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I was wrong for that post but I was being sarcastic. I was bullied when I was little and the thing I learned was to fight back and not to backdown. Not alot of people are like me, who stand up for themselves, but we live in a world where if you are the slightest bit different from the rest of the herd, you will be made fun of for it. It's disgraceful what they do but you HAVE to stand up for yourself and fight fire with fire. When I was little I would get picked on all the time but as soon as I stood my ground and fought back they stopped. After it was all said and done no one wanted to fuck with me again, infact they pretty much avoided me at all times. There were even instances where someone would be getting picked on and I would go over and defend them.

With that said, bullying is nothing new and it will continue until people start defending themselves. If you can't defend yourself I suggest getting home schooled or even having someone back you up when it happens. If you're an adult then you have no other choice then to stand up to the bullys and fight, if you can't do that then hire a personal body guard like this guy:




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