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Old 10-13-2012, 06:23 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Are you implying that us humans are above nature?
Also I'm sorry for calling you an idiot or whatever I said, uncalled for but someone with a Sagan sig having these beliefs is surprising ha. Natural selectiondeals with species over millions of years, there is a saying that says Survivors don't survive because they are the fittest.
Survivors are the fittest because they survive which basically means the fittest are the ones that survive through nature, we are born with free will and suicide is achoice so that does not go along with Darwin's theory.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:26 PM   #72 (permalink)
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I disagree with the idea this was 'natural selection'

Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE needs a hand once in a while. Thats why we survived for so damn long. Yes we are capable of great cruelty and sadism but we are also capable of great empathy.

This girl, I dont know what she did exactly. The details are sketchy, but it doesnt matter. Maybe she was nuts, i dont know. But I wont say she deserved it. Any way somebody could have saved her, they should have tried it

Natural selection is gone, because we rose above it. Yes, who doesnt chuckle when a redneck blows his nuts off with a shotgun or something and we all say "lol, natural selection at work". But its gone, because WE eliminated it. Because a long time ago our ancestors realised they can survive better hunting a group than as a team

Let me give an example. Scientists once found a homo sapien, around 40 years of age in a collapsed cave. He had arthritis, a withered arm, and he was blind in one eye. He also lost a hand to a wild animal and had a cracked skull. His tribe were most likely a group of hunters. This guy would have been utterly and completely useless to them, he couldnt hunt, use a bow, or do much of anything. In greek times they would have tossed him out to feed the wolves. In victorian times he would have been part of a freak show.

But in the stone age, this man LIVED. Someone, actually shared the food he had to kill giant animals to get, that he bled and almost died for, with this guy who served no purpose and basically 'held the tribe back'. Survival of the fittest dictates that man should have been left on his own to die, but he didnt. Someone gave a crap about him and took care of him. Thats why we survive, thats what should make us human. We empathise and look out for one another

I dont know this girl, and for all I know, nobody could have saved her. But that doesnt mean she deserved it, nobody does. And doesnt mean we should ever give up our empathy. We all face hard times, God knows I have. And so have a lot of my friends. But what makes us human, and friends, is that when one of gets knocked down, the rest try to help him get back up. And maybe one day, he'd do the same back for them
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:38 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Sorry, i don't feel bad for this girl. Shouldn't have given into peer pressure and showed her tits to randoms on the internet

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Old 10-13-2012, 07:50 PM   #74 (permalink)
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I don't have much to say on the suicide itself (though I sympathize with her situation), but anyone who says this was "natural selection at work" has a very limited understanding of evolutionary biology. "Survival of the fittest" is actually not a Darwinian concept; the term was coined by Herbert Spencer and later adopted by bourgeoisie racists to rationalize social injustices.

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Old 10-13-2012, 07:54 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Girls at age 14 are kids that are very impressionable and can be talked into anything. So it wasn't her fault at such a young age for someone to talk her into flashing.

She wasn't depressed until a stalker sent that pic to her family and so called friends that deserted her and called her a slut.

After she moved to get away an ex friend talked this impressionable child to come over when his gf was on vacation which caused a fight.

She was too young to toughen up, so remember she is the victim you heartless people.

Think back to when you were in high school, you could talk a girl her age into anything so she would feel accepted. That's why there are now sex offender laws to protect young, vulnerable kids like het.

I hope those responsible for her death feel guilty forever and need counseling.

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Old 10-13-2012, 08:15 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Am I the only here who after reading her story and watching her video said "WHERE THE FUCK ARE HER PARENTS?"
no i was

there's a difference between how guys and girls take bullying like this. young girls are just incredibly sensitive to absolutely everything (i should know, my sister's 15.) They don't understand that there is another day, that it's not all that bad. but by the sounds of this, it was just unrelenting crap from some terrible people each and every day, and that will break most young teen girls. you can say oh man up or she was selfish, but a 14 year old girl is very different to a 14 year old boy.
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Girls at age 14 are kids that are very impressionable and can be talked into anything. So it wasn't her fault at such a young age for someone to talk her into flashing.

She wasn't depressed until a stalker sent that pic to her family and so called friends that deserted her and called her a slut.

After she moved to get away an ex friend talked this impressionable child to come over when his gf was on vacation which caused a fight.

She was too young to toughen up, so remember she is the victim you heartless people.

Think back to when you were in high school, you could talk a girl her age into anything so she would feel accepted. That's why there are now sex offender laws to protect young, vulnerable kids like het.

I hope those responsible for her death feel guilty forever and need counseling.
Typically you'd be correct. But she had an inherent connection, so presumably she was in touch with how things like that pan out. In an age where information is at the tips of our fingers, ignorance is a blatant choice.

Impressionable or not, you have to know that showing your tits to strangers on the internet is never a good idea.


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Old 10-13-2012, 09:25 PM   #80 (permalink)
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Am I the only here who after reading her story and watching her video said "WHERE THE FUCK ARE HER PARENTS?"
The staggering amount of people and institutions, duty bound to look out for this kid, that failed is heartbreaking.

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