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Old 10-31-2012, 10:51 AM   #811 (permalink)
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No one WANTS to be on food stamps.
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There will always be a subset of the population that stays on food stamps because they are content with barely making it.

The second statement completely contradicts the first.

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I guarantee that many of the people on food stamps now are working to get out of it.
You are not understanding what I'm trying to get across. Food stamps are not a huge problem, but the consistent increasing of government benefits for those who already receive government benefits is a tad ridiculous. If I got more shit for free while I was already receiving shit for free, what incentive would I have to stop receiving government assistance? None.

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Why should Obama have to encourage people that being poor is shameful when everyone already knows that?
Why should he continue giving them benefits at the behest of taxpaying citizens in light of already in place increases in government assistance? Surely you're not arguing that most people conduct themselves with a degree of pride and morals and would do the right thing if they were given the choice, are you?

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He can't change the ignorant people who are content with living in the projects. Those people won't change and you shouldn't expect him to change them.
Who said anything about projects? What are you even talking about?
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:58 AM   #812 (permalink)
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The second statement completely contradicts the first.
When I say "no one", I'm talking about the average person. I couldn't generalize and say that no one ever wants to be on food stamps because there are always exceptions.


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You are not understanding what I'm trying to get across. Food stamps are not a huge problem,
But yet you're still complaining about them.

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but the consistent increasing of government benefits for those who already receive government benefits is a tad ridiculous. If I got more shit for free while I was already receiving shit for free, what incentive would I have to stop receiving government assistance? None.
For the people out there who think that they can't do any better, those people will be content with getting free stuff for nothing. Most people aren't content with getting the bare minimum from the government.

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Why should he continue giving them benefits at the behest of taxpaying citizens in light of already in place increases in government assistance? Surely you're not arguing that most people conduct themselves with a degree of pride and morals and would do the right thing if they were given the choice, are you?
Our tax money goes into a lot of stuff that most people wouldn't like. Benefits for illegal immigrants is one obvious example.


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Who said anything about projects? What are you even talking about?
We know where this discussion was heading when you posted the Obama phone video clip. Don't act naive.
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:06 AM   #813 (permalink)
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When I say "no one", I'm talking about the average person. I couldn't generalize and say that no one ever wants to be on food stamps because there are always exceptions.
Oh, okay. Thanks for clearing up what you couldn't clear up and still can't clear up because there are always exceptions as to why you can't generalize but...(cont. on 3rd quote)

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But yet you're still complaining about them.
Start comprehending. Seriously. I didn't say they were not a problem, I said they weren't a huge problem. I'm complaining about them because it IS A PROBLEM that more people are on them than ever.

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For the people out there who think that they can't do any better, those people will be content with getting free stuff for nothing. Most people aren't content with getting the bare minimum from the government.
(cont. from 1st quote)...you are more than happy to generalize here when you're trying to prove a point.

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Our tax money goes into a lot of stuff that most people wouldn't like. Benefits for illegal immigrants is one obvious example.
Stop dancing around the subject and address the points made directly. Throwing out different examples that have nothing to do with increasing benefits for legalized citizens who leech off of the government is doing nothing for you. Answer my question: What incentive is there for people to stop receiving government assistance if they continue to receive new government assistance? As a matter of fact, since you want to try analogies, what incentive is there for illegal citizens to stop receiving government assistance if they continue to receive it?

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We know where this discussion was heading when you posted the Obama phone video clip. Don't act naive.
I don't get it.

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(cont. from 1st quote)...you are more than happy to generalize here when you're trying to prove a point.
I didn't generalize at all. It's a fact that most people out here aren't content with getting the bare minimum from the government.


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Stop dancing around the subject and address the points made directly. Throwing out different examples that have nothing to do with increasing benefits for legalized citizens who leech off of the government is doing nothing for you. Answer my question: What incentive is there for people to stop receiving government assistance if they continue to receive new government assistance? As a matter of fact, since you want to try analogies, what incentive is there for illegal citizens to stop receiving government assistance if they continue to receive it? Same damn thing.
You keep overlooking the fact that many of the people receiving benefits are trying to move beyond them. It doesn't matter if the government gives out a basic cellphone. That won't be enough to change someone's mind. I've already addressed the exception to the rule where a portion of the population just wants to leech off the government. If you can prove that most people are content with getting the bare minimum from the government then you'll have an argument. When the government increases the benefits for people on food stamps, it still won't be enough to make a significant economic upgrade.
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I didn't generalize at all. It's a fact that most people out here aren't content with getting the bare minimum from the government.
You just generalized again. "Most people"..."known fact"...

You're right, they're not happy with the minimum. They want more from the government.

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You keep overlooking the fact that many of the people receiving benefits are trying to move beyond them.
Because you continue to overlook citing any type of source whatsoever and instead insist people take you on your uncredited word.

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It doesn't matter if the government gives out a basic cellphone.
It does when taxpayers are footing the bill.

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If you can prove that most people are content with getting the bare minimum from the government then you'll have an argument. When the government increases the benefits for people on food stamps, it still won't be enough to make a significant economic upgrade.
I don't need any proof. I'm not saying that most people are satisfied. You are the only one throwing out statements like "known fact" followed by your own personal opinion.

The only proof that I need is that more people are receiving government assistance via food stamps and disability than ever before. Maybe it's just Obama's bad luck that more people got hurt and can't afford food more so than any other President in history. That's it. He's just got bad luck.
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You just generalized again. "Most people"..."known fact"...
It's common knowledge. Most people don't want to live at the bare minimum. Generalizing is when people say "all" or don't leave room for exceptions. "Most people" leaves room for exceptions.

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You're right, they're not happy with the minimum. They want more from the government.
And the government won't give more than the minimum. People on food stamps aren't going to be driving in Ferraris or fly in first class seats.

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Because you continue to overlook citing any type of source whatsoever and instead insist people take you on your uncredited word. I don't need any proof. I'm not saying that most people are satisfied. You are the only one throwing out statements like "known fact" followed by your own personal opinion.
Why should I have to prove something that is common sense? Just look at the number of people on food stamps compared to the entire US population. Do you honestly think that a large percentage of the US population wants to live barely above the poverty line?


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The only proof that I need is that more people are receiving government assistance via food stamps and disability than ever before.
Why are you talking about disability now? People can't control that. In fact, this discussion was about food stamps so this is coming out of nowhere.
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9QA using a tragedy as an opportunity to make his idol look good.
I think the event made Obama look good.Your talking about a Republican who
spoke at the Republican National Convention this year. Its not as if Chris Christie did not come out of this looking good to he did and i am think about him if he ever runs President , i am a big fan of a Republican who can work with Democrats.



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how so all points show class in Obama and Chris Christie doing whats right in a time of need. thats what we are looking for in a President.the New Jersey governor displayed the confrontation-loving, hard-charging style that has made him a rising national figure.

"I don't give a damn about Election Day," Christie told a news conference on Tuesday in Ewing, New Jersey, 64 miles southwest of New York City. "Let the politicians who are on the ballot worry about Election Day. It's not my problem."

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How did the event make Obama look "good?" I still feel the same way about him today than I did before the hurricane. He did what he was supposed to do in that situation.

We shouldn't commend a President for doing what he is supposed to do.
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Gallup.com -- A majority of Americans continue to believe that Democratic President Barack Obama will win re-election Tuesday over Republican challenger Mitt Romney, by 54% to 34%. These views are roughly similar to where they were in May and August, although slightly more Americans now do not have an opinion either way.

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cnn - In Nevada, more Democrats have cast their ballots already.As of now, Democrats have an edge in the state, with 215,754 turning out their vote, compared to 181,278 Republicans. About 86,840 voters with a different party affiliation have also voted.

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Gallup.com -- A majority of Americans continue to believe that Democratic President Barack Obama will win re-election Tuesday over Republican challenger Mitt Romney, by 54% to 34%. These views are roughly similar to where they were in May and August, although slightly more Americans now do not have an opinion either way.
Because that is preciously what they've been told by the liberal dominated media in America, which is a very blatant tactic to making people not bother voting Republican as 'it wont make any difference', as they are being told everyday that Obama is a lock-in for re-election.

A very old media trick, get with it son.

Talking of the liberal dominated media, I find it hilarious how much the left hate the one right-wing conservative news station in Fox, yet completely ignore incredible bias and complete idiocy from the liberal media like this clip:

MSNBC Ridicules Romney for Collecting Food and Supplies for Sandy Victims, absolutely incredible and the worse part is, they are entirely serious.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...#ixzz2AtqTy3pV

Obama is 'acting like a president and Romney is acting like somebody who wants to be president' is quite possibly the most idiotic line I've ever heard.

Can you imagine the outrage from the left if Fox ran something like this if the roles were reversed?

As I've said, the main reason i want Romney to win is to see the reaction from the liberal dominated media, can you already see the excuse they are preparing if Obama loses? Its the same old trick:

'Racism'

You can be 100% sure thats what they will go with. It will be 'racist whiteys' fault, guarantee it. They will ignore the 80% of minorities voting Democrat, of course, including the 97% of blacks. It will be 'whiteys racism' that cost him re-election.
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