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Obama (D) 224 63.46%
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:35 PM   #721 (permalink)
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What repercussions are you talking about? He can have every soldier out of there tomorrow if he wanted, but he is choosing, based on his own free will, to leave them there. Stop blaming Bush when Obama is choosing to leave them there and continue to wars. Obama is in complete control of this. The military answers to nobody but him.

So of all the things he could have compromised with them on, why did he choose the Patriot Act, which is something he campaigned AGAINST in 2008? Funny, he also "compromised" with the GOP by extending the Bush Tax Cuts, which he also campaigned against, that the left absolutely hated for its tax breaks to the rich. Obama knew damn well that the GOP wasn't going to vote for any of his plans, and that is why he pushed through the healthcare while he still had the majority in the House and the Senate. Him extending the Patriot Act wasn't an act of compromise; it was him doing what he wanted. Was the NDAA an act of compromise as well? Is sending lawyers to allow the indefinite detention clause to remain in the NDAA a "compromise"?

I've given you reasons as to why Obama is Bush on Steroids. He's continued the wars (and started new ones), continues to bomb the Middle East, and continued Bush's assault on civil liberties. Please, just think outside of your leftist box for once.
So close minded. He obviously can't pull them out of those countries due to the patriot act passed through which was a compromise to the Republicans, how can you not see that? So Bush could get everything through when he was around with a 15% approval rating and Obama is a bad guy who shouldn't be aloud to have any act pass through Congress? You guys are so unbelievable, it's just mind blowing how one side you are.

Of course, he was against compromising the bill that Bush passed in..but it was last resort and I'm disappointed with that but the Republicans were turning down everything from everywhere! It's all about their rich buddies, fuck em.

Me in a leftist box? You know like how you are in neo con ring wing box. LOL. See, I have left wing ideas but I can still stand up and see what is wrong, especially if the Left wing block out censorship with music while allying with the Right wing. I'm far from a sheep but I do know Obama was handed a complete mess from Bush.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:39 PM   #722 (permalink)
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He obviously can't pull them out of those countries due to the patriot act passed
Do you even know what the Patriot Act is???? The Patriot Act has NOTHING to do with his ability to withdraw troops. Come back when you know what you're talking about, son.

Now, allow those who know what they're talking about discuss the goings on in the United States political spectrum.
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How can you call someone who is being critical of militarily aggressive policies a neo-con? Do you know what the term means, I wonder?
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:45 PM   #724 (permalink)
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Do you even know what the Patriot Act is???? The Patriot Act has NOTHING to do with his ability to withdraw troops. Come back when you know what you're talking about, son.

Now, allow those who know what they're talking about discuss the goings on in the United States political spectrum.
I obviously fumbled my words around as I was typing at a fast pace like I am now. Fuck off, don't call me son.

The Repubs obviously pressured Obama in to a lot of decisions, the Patriot act being one of them, it's common sense. You know that, everyone does. The act is obviously to combat terrorism acts by groups in the Middle East and wherever they may be. Of course, the Repubs would have wanted it extended, it's something that they created, son.
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I obviously fumbled my words around as I was typing at a fast pace like I am now. Fuck off, don't call me son.

The Repubs obviously pressured Obama in to a lot of decisions, the Patriot act being one of them, it's common sense. You know that, everyone does. The act is obviously to combat terrorism acts by groups in the Middle East and wherever they may be. Of course, the Repubs would have wanted it extended, it's something that they created, son.
The Republicans didn't pressure Obama into anything. He had no incentive to extend the Patriot Act at that point, as he already had his healthcare passed. What pressure was he put under? Do you have proof of this?

The Patriot Act has NOTHING to do with the Middle East. It has to do with combating domestic terrorism via wiretaps, and spying on American citizens. Plus, it was the REPUBLICANS who were questioning whether Obama extending the act via "Autopen" was even constitutional in the first place. But hey, I thought it was part of a "compromise?"

It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about. Just stop it.

EDIT- Also, glad to know you know and fully understand the definition of Neo-Con. Can you define it for me, and then give examples where I exemplified traits of being a Neo-Con?

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neocons are the worst

but liberals too are the worst

but not as bad as those moderates
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The Republicans didn't pressure Obama into anything. He had no incentive to extend the Patriot Act at that point, as he already had his healthcare passed. What pressure was he put under? Do you have proof of this?

The Patriot Act has NOTHING to do with the Middle East. It has to do with combating domestic terrorism via wiretaps, and spying on American citizens. Plus, it was the REPUBLICANS who were questioning whether Obama extending the act via "Autopen" was even constitutional in the first place. But hey, I thought it was part of a "compromise?"

It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about. Just stop it.

EDIT- Also, glad to know you know and fully understand the definition of Neo-Con. Can you define it for me, and then give examples where I exemplified traits of being a Neo-Con?
Neo conservatives are pro-bombing, pro-empire heavyweight intellectuals who have filled the vacuum on the Right, where most Americans have little interest in foreign policy. They dominate Republican foreign policy because they care about it, whereas most Americans don't. NATO expansion was an example; most Americans don't think about it and don't care. "Neo cons" do. Also they heavily influence the Democratic Party from whence they came. They are close to European Social Democrats, many of whom have also now favor pro-interventionist wars, since the collapse of communism.

"Neo conservatives" are mostly former leftists/liberals who converted to conservatism during the '70's and when Ronald Reagan became President. In domestic policy they tend to be moderate "welfare" Republicans. However, their major concern is foreign policy. They strongly favor US military interventions overseas and becoming the world’s policeman. They promoted the First Iraq War and are constantly the instigators for more confrontation with Iraq, Iran, the Sudan, and other Moslem states. They were among the chief instigators of the Kosovo War.

Oh, no..hear that everyone? Obama signed with an autopen, golly gosh! I'm sure it's not any worse than Romney not showing his tax returns or Trump finding "divorce papers" You love to have everything your way but once someone else gets a turn it's "THIS IS COMMUNIST RUSSIA!" You really think you do any good to the society with that type of attitude?

I have no idea what I'm talking about? Hahahaha, that is funny. You are leaving out A LOT and just rampaging on Obama, while not looking at the tracks that you guys left in the midst of all the chaos several years back.

Hey but what do I know? You quoted a Creed song in an endorsement for Romney. LMAO.
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Neo conservatives are pro-bombing, pro-empire heavyweight intellectuals who have filled the vacuum on the Right, where most Americans have little interest in foreign policy. They dominate Republican foreign policy because they care about it, whereas most Americans don't. NATO expansion was an example; most Americans don't think about it and don't care. "Neo cons" do. Also they heavily influence the Democratic Party from whence they came. They are close to European Social Democrats, many of whom have also now favor pro-interventionist wars, since the collapse of communism.

"Neo conservatives" are mostly former leftists/liberals who converted to conservatism during the '70's and when Ronald Reagan became President. In domestic policy they tend to be moderate "welfare" Republicans. However, their major concern is foreign policy. They strongly favor US military interventions overseas and becoming the world’s policeman. They promoted the First Iraq War and are constantly the instigators for more confrontation with Iraq, Iran, the Sudan, and other Moslem states. They were among the chief instigators of the Kosovo War.


Oh, no..hear that everyone? Obama signed with an autopen, golly gosh! I'm sure it's not any worse than Romney not showing his tax returns or Trump finding "divorce papers" You love to have everything your way but once someone else gets a turn it's "THIS IS COMMUNIST RUSSIA!" You really think you do any good to the society with that type of attitude?

I have no idea what I'm talking about? Hahahaha, that is funny. You are leaving out A LOT and just rampaging on Obama, while not looking at the tracks that you guys left in the midst of all the chaos several years back.

Hey but what do I know? You quoted a Creed song in an endorsement for Romney. LMAO.
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1tvxm/t...nservative.htm

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Yes, a link redirecting you on to "Iconservative" where the definition was published, and put forth on the website. I gave you a definition on the meaning and now you want me to go away? Sounds like you aren't use to people standing up against your opinions.

Scott Stapp who is obviously in Creed..can't mention Creed without him..obviously. Enjoy Creed though, they are up there with Nickelback for sure.
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Don't think it gets any more pro-bombing than Barack Obama. He bombs countries we aren't at war with. Like, every couple of days, at that. If it didn't happen yesterday or today, it's goin' down tomorrow. The kids are terrified every day. They aren't American or Israeli though, so fuck 'em - Barack Obama.

In any case, calling GOON a neo-con is way off the mark as he's non-interventionist. The complete opposite of being a hawkish neo-con.
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