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post #711 of 1735 (permalink) Old 10-28-2012, 09:12 PM
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Bush started that Iraq mess..and things only got worse when time went on..similar to the economy mess..Obama has been forced to stay there. You are so blind.

Civil liberties? Bush turned the whole economy upside down and screwed everything up. Bush is like the little kid who made a mess and Obama is the preschool teacher who has to come and clean up the mess.

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Obama isn't "forced" to do anything. He is the Commander in Chief. He could have withdrawn the troops the day he took office, but the troops are STILL in Afghanistan and he tried to keep them in Iraq, but he had to withdraw on Bush's timetable. That means he CHOSE to keep them there, and it was his decision. He's also gotten the United States involved in Libya, and is now funding al-Qaeda in Syria.

Civil liberties has nothing to do with the economy. Obama extended the Patriot Act, which was brought into law under BUSH. Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012, which allows the indefinite detention of American citizens. Along with that, Obama has had two American citizens killed without due process.

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post #712 of 1735 (permalink) Old 10-28-2012, 09:28 PM
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Um, the likes of Trump and anyone very similar..they make like hundreds of millions of dollars, they would surely be okay to take a tax cut for the Health care reform process.

Bush was trying to fit his Daddy's war, he got carried away and put a ton of troops lives in danger in the process. No WMD was found, it was all a lie in order to get oil, it's pretty simple.

Saddam was an extremely evil man but the normal thing to do would not to put innocent civilians in harms way with bombing the shit out of some places that didn't even ignite 9/11. You take care of Saddam by tracking him down, similar case with how they took care of Osama.

You really though that ANYONE from 2009 to 2012 would be able to fix the economy up? It's impossible, it's going to take a ton of small steps here and there to get it rolling again.

Yeah, those two did get put in jail but the three wise men sure didn't go in, they are off now on their yachts, spending millions of dollars from the pay outs they got from Bush and co. They escaped without any scars.

The Libya and Iraq "war" are two different things, granted there were deaths in both incidents but the Iraq "war" was drawn out a lot, and what were the US even doing there? A ton of troops have spoken out on it...everything is so messy and cluttered atm that Obama has been forced to keep them in Iraq, it's fucked.

You are comparing Soros to Murdoch? Hahahaha. Wow. Murdoch is a piece of shit who approved the Iraq war, he has a stronghold here in Australia by bashing people on the left in the newspapers, media etc. Left wingers need their voices to be raised otherwise all you would get is News Ltd bullshit, because News Ltd have done so much good for the world, right?

If Romney wins, a lot of people will lose their jobs even more, and it will get worse.
It is obvious you have not actually read anything I typed.

Government health care is a massive overreach of the federal government. I don't trust the government with making decisions about my health. Trump is already on record saying he'll pay the penalty...errr....tax from Obamacare. He's rich enough he can pay for most medical procedures out of pocket anyway, most other rich people will do the same thing.

Not one bit of Iraqi oil has come into this country after the war, the argument of it being a war for oil doesn't hold.

We had the chance to finish Saddam off in 1991, but the United Nations wouldn't hear of it. And we did track him down and get him, same with his sons.

Progress is one thing, but Obama's small steps are in the opposite direction of progress. He is making things worse. His plans have done nothing but push our economy to the brink of financial collapse.

Soros is even worse than Murdoch is. Soros has been notorious for currency speculation, which back in 1992 nearly brought Britain's financial market crashing around it. He's also been guilty of insider trading in France as well. He openly uses his money to subvert political systems throughout the world. As for Murdoch, his voice is one conservative against many liberal voices in Australia, Britain, and the United States. And Murdoch doesn't use his wealth to subvert the political process.

I respect you, sir, for being respectful and not bashing the hell out of me because we disagree. But, it would help if you read what I typed and then disagree rather than just spout the typical liberal viewpoints without actually reading what the other side is saying. Just saying.



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Bush started that Iraq mess..and things only got worse when time went on..similar to the economy mess..Obama has been forced to stay there. You are so blind.
How can you say GOON is blind when you seem to be under the impression that the US is still in Iraq? We withdrew out troops in December of 2011, in accordance with the withdrawal deadline agreed to by George W Bush. In fact, Barack Obama wanted to keep 10,000 US troops in Iraq BEYOND George Bush's deadline.

Now Obama has tripled our military presence in Afghanistan, gotten us involved in Libya, is considering arming/funding rebels in Syria, and has greatly ramped up drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia. Obama is a bigger warhawk than Dick Cheney, even. How ironic that he was given a nobel peace prize during the first year of his presidency.

Unfortunately regarding civil liberties Obama simply has no leg to stand on. He extended the PATRIOT act and signed the NDAA, allowing any American citizen to be indefinitely detained without due process. Also thanks to Obama we'll be seeing drones used in civilian space to spy on, well, anyone the government feels like spying on.

As far as the economy? Obama is spending more than the current deficit alone on his socialist healthcare vision. And, as he proudly bragged during the presidential debate, continues to increase military spending every year.

Of course, Romney would not be an improvement in any of these areas, nor have I ever or will I ever support Romney's presidential bid, but I have to take issue with anyone trying to portray Barack Obama as anything less than a complete failure of a president.


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It is obvious you have not actually read anything I typed.

Government health care is a massive overreach of the federal government. I don't trust the government with making decisions about my health. Trump is already on record saying he'll pay the penalty...errr....tax from Obamacare. He's rich enough he can pay for most medical procedures out of pocket anyway, most other rich people will do the same thing.

Not one bit of Iraqi oil has come into this country after the war, the argument of it being a war for oil doesn't hold.

We had the chance to finish Saddam off in 1991, but the United Nations wouldn't hear of it. And we did track him down and get him, same with his sons.

Progress is one thing, but Obama's small steps are in the opposite direction of progress. He is making things worse. His plans have done nothing but push our economy to the brink of financial collapse.

Soros is even worse than Murdoch is. Soros has been notorious for currency speculation, which back in 1992 nearly brought Britain's financial market crashing around it. He's also been guilty of insider trading in France as well. He openly uses his money to subvert political systems throughout the world. As for Murdoch, his voice is one conservative against many liberal voices in Australia, Britain, and the United States. And Murdoch doesn't use his wealth to subvert the political process.

I respect you, sir, for being respectful and not bashing the hell out of me because we disagree. But, it would help if you read what I typed and then disagree rather than just spout the typical liberal viewpoints without actually reading what the other side is saying. Just saying.
A lot of the involvement in Iraq had A LOT to do with oil: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...q-2269610.html

The link above gives you plenty of retracted statements that still ring true from all of those years back with Blair, Bush and co.

Trump has never approved Obamacare at all. It's just all about saving the money to himself when in a time of need, where everyone needs help, him and his rich buddies just keep it all to themselves. He doesn't give a fuck, don't fool yourself. Just sayin.

Muroch doesn't use his money for any political purposes? Fox News who has a macho right wing neo con view..doesn't carry any political views supplied by with Murdoch's money? And a whole chain of other outles that he has. Telling my country Australia that all left wing politicians are horrible, endorsing Romney with billions of dollars, hacking phones in the UK and bribing the Police...please, just stop.

It doesn't matter even if JFK came back from the dead and became president of the USA, even he couldn't fix the economy issue. It's a mess, and for anyone to blame it on Obama and his team, they have short term memory.

Norman Lamont had far more to do with the Black Wednesday incident than George Soros did. That is a fact.

Um, Rumsfeld while under the Reagan administration armed Saddam with weapons ffs. The Republicans knew what was up, thus them saying "We have to go to Iraq for the WMD's" They knew that themselves supplied that nutcase with weapons but they had all ready been used up by the time Bush Jnr came over to get the WMD's. It's messed up.

Obama is still cleaning the mess up that those rich college boys gave him.
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How can you say GOON is blind when you seem to be under the impression that the US is still in Iraq? We withdrew out troops in December of 2011, in accordance with the withdrawal deadline agreed to by George W Bush. In fact, Barack Obama wanted to keep 10,000 US troops in Iraq BEYOND George Bush's deadline.

Now Obama has tripled our military presence in Afghanistan, gotten us involved in Libya, is considering arming/funding rebels in Syria, and has greatly ramped up drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia. Obama is a bigger warhawk than Dick Cheney, even. How ironic that he was given a nobel peace prize during the first year of his presidency.

Unfortunately regarding civil liberties Obama simply has no leg to stand on. He extended the PATRIOT act and signed the NDAA, allowing any American citizen to be indefinitely detained without due process. Also thanks to Obama we'll be seeing drones used in civilian space to spy on, well, anyone the government feels like spying on.

As far as the economy? Obama is spending more than the current deficit alone on his socialist healthcare vision. And, as he proudly bragged during the presidential debate, continues to increase military spending every year.

Of course, Romney would not be an improvement in any of these areas, nor have I ever or will I ever support Romney's presidential bid, but I have to take issue with anyone trying to portray Barack Obama as anything less than a complete failure of a president.
The Patriot act was extended due to Obama having to compromise with the right wing, they turned all his ideas so he had to get something through in exchange for the Act to get extended...

I know that the US isn't in Iraq but I also know that so many other circumstances still revolve around it in the Middle East with Bush and Cheney screwing everything up there, it's going to take time to rebuild but it's the Middle East that we are talking about, they are still living in the 17th century ffs. It's a messy place. The right wing sure didn't help matters when they bombed the fuck out of it when they could have just tracked down Osama and Hussein with the intelligence that they had in their possession.

Obama is not a bigger "warhawk" than Cheney. Cheney is the guy that STARTED the mess ffs. You think if those two were not there so many years back and fucked everything up with everything that we would be in the hole we are in right now? Fuck no.

Obama is only going to get better from here on in, no one could scoop up the mess that was laid by Bush and co. It's going to take time. I even knew this back like 4 or 5 years ago when Obama came in.
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Unfortunately your posts have been all liberal media narrative and no substance. You've presented no facts to back up that narrative either.


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The Patriot act was extended due to Obama having to compromise with the right wing, they turned all his ideas so he had to get something through in exchange for the Act to get extended...

I know that the US isn't in Iraq but I also know that so many other circumstances still revolve around it in the Middle East with Bush and Cheney screwing everything up there, it's going to take time to rebuild but it's the Middle East that we are talking about, they are still living in the 17th century ffs. It's a messy place. The right wing sure didn't help matters when they bombed the fuck out of it when they could have just tracked down Osama and Hussein with the intelligence that they had in their possession.

Obama is not a bigger "warhawk" than Cheney. Cheney is the guy that STARTED the mess ffs. You think if those two were not there so many years back and fucked everything up with everything that we would be in the hole we are in right now? Fuck no.

Obama is only going to get better from here on in, no one could scoop up the mess that was laid by Bush and co. It's going to take time. I even knew this back like 4 or 5 years ago when Obama came in.
My God, you really buy into the stuff the leftist media tells you is true, huh?

Let me ask you this: Did the GOP force Obama to extend the Patriot Act, something he campaigned against back in 2008? No, he did it under his own free will, and he had no reason to do so. He didn't just do it to appease the GOP either, as he signed the NDAA as well under his own free will, all the while sending White House lawyers to keep the indefinite detention clause in the bill.

Obama is "bombing the fuck out of the Middle East" as well with his drone strikes, more so than Bush ever did. The fact is that Bush and Cheney are out of power now, and Obama is CONTINUING their policies. How can you not see this? He wanted to keep the troops in Iraq, but the Iraqi government wouldn't allow it, as they insisted that the troops be withdrawn on BUSH'S timetable.

Obama is just as bad as Bush.

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Obama isn't "forced" to do anything. He is the Commander in Chief. He could have withdrawn the troops the day he took office, but the troops are STILL in Afghanistan and he tried to keep them in Iraq, but he had to withdraw on Bush's timetable. That means he CHOSE to keep them there, and it was his decision. He's also gotten the United States involved in Libya, and is now funding al-Qaeda in Syria.

Civil liberties has nothing to do with the economy. Obama extended the Patriot Act, which was brought into law under BUSH. Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012, which allows the indefinite detention of American citizens. Along with that, Obama has had two American citizens killed without due process.

More Obama civil liberty violations here

Despite what the media has told you, Obama has been an awful President, and is BUSH on steroids. I provided you with facts here. Take them as you wish.
It's NEVER been that Obama has been FORCED to it's from the repercussions brought on by the past war lurking by Bush and co. How can you not see that?

The Repubs shot down every single one of Obamas ideas thus he has to compromise with them, it was a Bush idea with the Patriot act, Bush is a Republican...you connect the rest of the dots.

Obama will lead the US in to recovery and the Republicans have to stop being little bitches about everything, and think about the people for once, not their rich corporate friends. Bush on steroids, huh? Anyone would have been Bush on steroids around this time of the year, lol, he fucked up everything, it's all Bush's doing along with Dick. Please, just think outside the box for once.
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It's NEVER been that Obama has been FORCED to it's from the repercussions brought on by the past war lurking by Bush and co. How can you not see that?

The Repubs shot down every single one of Obamas ideas thus he has to compromise with them, it was a Bush idea with the Patriot act, Bush is a Republican...you connect the rest of the dots.

Obama will lead the US in to recovery and the Republicans have to stop being little bitches about everything, and think about the people for once, not their rich corporate friends. Bush on steroids, huh? Anyone would have been Bush on steroids around this time of the year, lol, he fucked up everything, it's all Bush's doing along with Dick. Please, just think outside the box for once.
What repercussions are you talking about? He can have every soldier out of there tomorrow if he wanted, but he is choosing, based on his own free will, to leave them there. Stop blaming Bush when Obama is choosing to leave them there and continue to wars. Obama is in complete control of this. The military answers to nobody but him.

So of all the things he could have compromised with them on, why did he choose the Patriot Act, which is something he campaigned AGAINST in 2008? Funny, he also "compromised" with the GOP by extending the Bush Tax Cuts, which he also campaigned against, that the left absolutely hated for its tax breaks to the rich. Obama knew damn well that the GOP wasn't going to vote for any of his plans, and that is why he pushed through the healthcare while he still had the majority in the House and the Senate. Him extending the Patriot Act wasn't an act of compromise; it was him doing what he wanted. Was the NDAA an act of compromise as well? Is sending lawyers to allow the indefinite detention clause to remain in the NDAA a "compromise"?

I've given you reasons as to why Obama is Bush on Steroids. He's continued the wars (and started new ones), continues to bomb the Middle East, and continued Bush's assault on civil liberties. Please, just think outside of your leftist box for once.


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