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who you voteing for Obama (D) , Romney (R) or Other

  • Obama (D)

    Votes: 224 63.3%
  • Romney (R)

    Votes: 62 17.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 68 19.2%

Poll - Obama (D) vs Romney (R) - Vote

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#1 · (Edited)
Obama (D) Gets my vote

 
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#1,299 ·
Actually she's 14. But that's not relevant to anything.
 
#1,316 ·
It was close. Virginia, Ohio, Florida, and Colorado were all extremely close and could have easily gone to Romney as well. If a couple thousand or so votes swung in the other way, we would be having President Romney right now and the sheep would be without their leader.

The electoral college doesn't show how close the race really was.
 
#1,307 ·
Hmmm. What will Romney do now?
 
#1,318 ·
Never listening to anyone but Nate Silver again.
 
#1,320 ·
From an election night entertainment perspective, I'd have a liked a closer contest but politically, an Obama win was a good as it could get (IMO, of course). Problem is, the House and Senate situations haven't much changed, so basically a whole lot of time and money was put toward not much change at all. Good luck to him on another four years of constant attempts at compromise.

It's unfortunate that third party and independent candidates don't have more viability in the US but then again, vote splitting across multiple choices has cause some crazy situations elsewhere (like here in Canada, for example) so there's that plus to staying with the big two, I guess. I'd just like to see more variety than middle sorta left and right leaning a bit to the middle.
 
#1,324 ·
Maybe people just don't want crazy right wing nutters anymore? Romney wasn't exactly a "right wing nutter" but he is/was a sellout, he could've been something different for the Republicans (not that I would have cared due to me being left wing) but Romney had to bend over backwards for the Tea Party people. Obama won, deal with it.

 
#1,325 ·
The Republicans are the engineers of their own unhappiness. Instead of cultivating people like Jon Huntsman in the primaries - I disagree with him on just about everything, but I respect him for knowing his ass from a hole in the ground - they lead with the fringest Tea Party candidates to appeal to the base. When it became perfectly clear those guys would never get the independents and the swing voters, they were left with Romney.

Maybe people just don't want crazy right wing nutters anymore? Romney wasn't exactly a "right wing nutter" but he is/was a sellout, he could've been something different for the Republicans (not that I would have cared due to me being left wing) but Romney had to bend over backwards for the Tea Party people.
Basically, this. It was even worse in 08, when a sensible Republican like John McCain - who I actually respected before the election - was forced to pander to the worst elements of the conservative party, when he had a track record of being moderate and reaching across the aisle.
 
#1,327 ·
Great a moderate Conservative just beat out a more Conservative Republican. Obama is hardly a liberal president, and that's not his fault. Democrats are hardly liberals. I will say that I am more glad Obama beat out Romney because Willard is the last thing we need at the State of the Unions addresses for the next 4 years. That man will put a room full of insomniacs high on Meth, Cocaine, and LSD to sleep.
 
#1,331 ·
I disagree. The states that you mentioned have a good Liberal history ever since Clinton changed the mould back in 1992. You can say "If Romney didn't treat Paul like dirt, he would have won" Come on now..liberals would have somewhat of an equal stronghold or if not more of a stronghold.

I have an open mind..how can you say that without even knowing me? I'm pro choice, all for legalising weed, gay marriage should be legal, the rich should get taxed more to spread the wealth etc.

Obama winning was a pretty awesome moment. Romney seems like a moderate okay dude that sold himself out but Paul Ryan seems like a loopy right winger.

I really can't see much happening in Washington unless the Tea Party goes away..and more moderate Republicans step in so it'll be easier for Obama and the other Democrats to negotiate with them, just for the good of the people. It needs to happen.

You can say all you want about what if's but wow, everyone here in Australia has been ecstatic about the Obama victory, such an awesome speech and a feel good moment which will carry on in to many feel good moments for the next four years!

Now it's time to help the people.
 
#1,332 ·
Ron Paul stands for a policy of 'everyone do what the fuck you want, its not my business'

Something I believe we can all get behind with the government poking their nose into every little issue

Legalising pot, abortion, marriage is not the federal government's concern and it is instead being left to the people on a state level

So yeah, those are some pretty loopy ideas. Damn you founding fathers you wackos
 
#1,334 · (Edited)
I disagree on that. States like Virginia, Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire, Iowa, and Colorado are all pretty mixed on the their political affiliation, as they usually tend to be pretty close each election and aren't committed to one party like states such as Texas, California, and New York. The Libertarian vote was the difference in most of those states, as evident by the numbers I posted. They either A) Didn't vote, B) Voted for a third party, C) Voted for Obama out of spite for how Romney treated Paul, or D) Wrote in Ron Paul or someone else to stick it to the two party system. I highly doubt any real Libertarian voted for Romney in this election after how the GOP Convention was conducted.

The problem in Washington is that both parties are going so far to their side of the political spectrum that it is impossible for either side to work with the other even if they wanted to. The far right won't work with the far left and vice versa, as they would never come to a compromise. Even if someone does decide to work with the other side, they have to worry about their own elections and the opposing candidates will paint them as either "Not a true Conservative" or "Not a true Progressive" and they will lose in their parties' primary.

The political system in America is beyond screwed at the moment, so I don't get why people are getting so excited about the potential of Obama accomplishing anything. The only time he really got something done was when he had the majority in both the House AND the Senate, and the Democrats won't have the majority in the House until at least 2016 barring a huge shift in 2014. Unless he abuses the hell out of Executive Orders, he isn't going to accomplish much. Partisan Gridlock in Washington will be the story of Obama's second term imo.

EDIT- Paul Ryan was influenced by the right people at least, as he apparently is a big fan of the works of people like Ludwig Von Misses and FA Hayek, the same people who influenced Ron Paul. Damn shame his policies are almost the exact opposite of what those men wrote about. I'd say that there is a slight chance he wakes up to what is going on, but he seems to be a victim of the political machine.
 
#1,342 ·
I disagree on that. States like Virginia, Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire, Iowa, and Colorado are all pretty mixed on the their political affiliation, as they usually tend to be pretty close each election and aren't committed to one party like states such as Texas, California, and New York. The Libertarian vote was the difference in most of those states, as evident by the numbers I posted. They either A) Didn't vote, B) Voted for a third party, C) Voted for Obama out of spite for how Romney treated Paul, or D) Wrote in Ron Paul or someone else to stick it to the two party system. I highly doubt any real Libertarian voted for Romney in this election after how the GOP Convention was conducted.

The problem in Washington is that both parties are going so far to their side of the political spectrum that it is impossible for either side to work with the other even if they wanted to. The far right won't work with the far left and vice versa, as they would never come to a compromise. Even if someone does decide to work with the other side, they have to worry about their own elections and the opposing candidates will paint them as either "Not a true Conservative" or "Not a true Progressive" and they will lose in their parties' primary.

The political system in America is beyond screwed at the moment, so I don't get why people are getting so excited about the potential of Obama accomplishing anything. The only time he really got something done was when he had the majority in both the House AND the Senate, and the Democrats won't have the majority in the House until at least 2016 barring a huge shift in 2014. Unless he abuses the hell out of Executive Orders, he isn't going to accomplish much. Partisan Gridlock in Washington will be the story of Obama's second term imo.

EDIT- Paul Ryan was influenced by the right people at least, as he apparently is a big fan of the works of people like Ludwig Von Misses and FA Hayek, the same people who influenced Ron Paul. Damn shame his policies are almost the exact opposite of what those men wrote about. I'd say that there is a slight chance he wakes up to what is going on, but he seems to be a victim of the political machine.
Or maybe they just voted for Obama because they don't like right wing wackos who associate themselves with gun wackos, born again wackos and rich corporate wackos. You do know those people could be left wing, right? You don't seem too bad but don't fall for Paul Ryan, he is just bullshitting people...just like how he said he liked Rage Against The Machine, how the fuck would he not know the message from De La Rocha and co? Lol!

I hope things go well for Obama but the Tea Party nutters will try everything to block off Obama. Obama has done well considering the mess he has had to put up with from Bush and co.

It's going to be a bit before everything is cleaned up or somewhat minimized and then fixed up later on..I'm 110% behind Obama.
 
#1,336 ·
Yeah, no doubt.

Ryan is one of those neo con/right wing wackos.

The Tea Party affiliation from the Republican Party needs to go away for them to be any chance, not that I care but eh..

I've got a real good feeling about the next four years..it will be a bit of a bumpy road for a bit but things will get better.
 
#1,344 ·
California and new york are already exteremely liberal states that are basically like Europe anyways. huge driving economies with their own rules and policies that might as well be their own countries due to their sheer influence

Majority of states shift between lib and con as can be seen over the elections, dont see how it changes everything too much
 
#1,348 · (Edited)
Yes, but they would never do it, as the federal government still has enough power delegated to them by the Constitution that is good for the states. Problem is that the federal government, by getting involved in marriage, drug usage, and other issues is complete overreach. Read the tenth amendment.

You're taking the argument to the extreme, as a state would NEVER secede unless they were all to do it in unison like the South did during the Civil War and even then that would never happen again. Like Redead said, only about two states even have the capability of surviving on their own.
 
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