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Obama (D) 224 63.46%
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:09 AM   #311 (permalink)
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9QA at first I believed you were dropped as a child but now im starting to think you were thrown

Mr MethHardy, continue. What of Mr Paul's foreign policy?
disagree. He ignores reality and wants to cut to much military spending first of all.
His stance on Iran is wrong on all accounts. Letting them get nukes would be awful and we need to prevent that from happening sooner the better. I believe he is out of touch and sitting at home being isolationist while letting terrorist and our enemies gather nukes is wrong.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:14 AM   #312 (permalink)
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disagree. He ignores reality and wants to cut to much military spending first of all.
His stance on Iran is wrong on all accounts. Letting them get nukes would be awful and we need to prevent that from happening sooner the better. I believe he is out of touch and sitting at home being isolationist while letting terrorist and our enemies gather nukes is wrong.
So what you want our President to say to Iran is basically: "Our nukes our good, and your nukes are BAD", right? That doesn't fly. You DO know that Iran is getting nukes for protection, right? You DO know that Iran isn't close to actually having a nuclear weapon, right? You DO know we wouldn't have these enemies in the first place had we minded our own business and stopped interfering in the business of other nations, such as helping install the Shah in Iran in 1953.

That Ron Paul is dangerous, man. More WAR!!!!
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I always liked Ron Paul, he seemed to represent what democracy should be, he seems like a genuine person rather than a politican

I just don't like his son
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:17 AM   #314 (permalink)
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Why do you believe Iran seeks nuclear weapons?

Moreso, why do you think Iran is America's enemy?

Do you believe another war, this time with an actual determined military and social power in the region is a good idea? Especially one with access to the gulf of hormuz, and the dozens of United States military bases in the region as well as key allies in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Bahrain?

A war in Iran is a far different story than Iraq, Iran will actually fight back. I wouldnt underestimate their influence, you'd be surprised how determined those shi'ite muslims can be and close the entire region is to a full explosion. War with Iran will change the world. Not to mention, Russia and China might get involved.

If Iran hypothetically got a nuke, I'd imagine the danger would still be America. Seeing as they started this all as GOON described and only one country as far as I'm aware has ever used atomic weapons in warfare
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:19 AM   #315 (permalink)
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His son is basically him, just more or less willing to play the "game" so to speak. Paul's downfall was that he never did play ball with the GOP, and because of that they ignored him every step of the way. Rand, who is probably going to run in 2016, knows this and won't make the same mistakes. He endorsed Romney for the sole reason to get into the good graces of the GOP so he has a chance in 2016. If you check his voting record, he is mostly the polar opposite of Romney and the Neo-Conservatives.

The Rand you see in the news is probably not who he really is. It's just him playing the "game". He's easily the best member of the GOP in the Senate, and the best one who will probably run in 2016.
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I think Jeb Bush will run next election

fun fact, a lot of nominees try to avoid running after an opponents 4 year term because its easier to win after the guy served 8 full years

a lot of the stronger republican nominees are just waiting for the democrats momentum to die out. like what happened with george W
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:26 AM   #317 (permalink)
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Well you didn't really support anything you said with sources but I'll (generously) answer what I can with what I know. You will have to expand on a few things however.

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hes anti gay and seems racist to me.
Regarding being anti-gay, Ron Paul is actually in favor of getting government out of the marriage business entirely, leaving anyone free to marry who they please. Sounds like a win for gay people to me.

As far as being racist: Austin, Texas' NAACP president Nelson Linder has stated he doesn't believe Ron Paul is a racist at all, having heard him speak out against police oppression of black communities, and describing Martin Luther King as a personal hero of his. Doesn't fit with the depiction of a "racist" in my view.

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hes against abortion.
This is true, yet he's against allowing the federal government to decide the issue. In other words Paul isn't looking to push his abortion views on the country, as he feels it isn't a government issue.
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hes against protecting people with disabilities.
Gonna need you to EXPAND on that one.
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hes against drug law enforcements.
Americans should have the right to decide for themselves what they put into their bodies. You have a problem with this, but were criticizing him as against civil rights? How inconsistent of you.
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hes against the education system and wants everyone to afford private schooling and have no standards to aim for.
Well the second half of your statement is untrue as he supports all type of schools but how could anyone NOT be against the education system as it is? The quality of education in America has absolutely plummeted in recent years. This is a DETRACTION for you?
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hes anti science, he won't fund nasa, he won't protect the environment cause global warmings is not real to him
The man who supports stem cell research is against science? Tell me more.

Yeah Ron Paul would cut the shit out of NASA, but not because he's anti-Science. He wants to open space exploration to the private sector instead of maintaining the current government monopoly. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

As for global warming, I don't recall him saying it's not "real". He's said there are far more pressing matters such as the financial crisis and the wars. Hard to disagree there.

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hes an isolationist, no aid to anyone for any reason so we are all alone as a country.
But the more accurate term is "non-interventionist". Here's a good quote:

"There's nobody in this world that could possibly attack us today... we could defend this country with a few good submarines. If anybody dared touch us we could wipe any country off of the face of the earth within hours. And here we are, so intimidated and so insecure and we're acting like such bullies that we have to attack third-world nations that have no military and have no weapons."
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No healthcare for anyone if you can't afford it go die in the streets.
Completely untrue. He's against government-funded healthcare because it leads to higher healthcare costs and a lower quality of care. He is NOT for turning people away who can't afford health insurance, at all. So there isn't an ounce of truth to what you said there.

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That's just to start. Should I post more why he is nuts and people that support him are nuts too? His son is just as bad too or worse.
Well you didn't land a single point so, yes, you should definitely post more if you hope to make this case.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:27 AM   #318 (permalink)
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Oh FUCK YOU GOON you goddamn ninja.

Nah your post was better.

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facts WOW! WHY DO YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT facts!!

global warmings is not real . LMAO
Where on Earth did you see facts in the post you quoted?
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:28 AM   #319 (permalink)
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So what you want our President to say to Iran is basically: "Our nukes our good, and your nukes are BAD", right? That doesn't fly. You DO know that Iran is getting nukes for protection, right? You DO know that Iran isn't close to actually having a nuclear weapon, right? You DO know we wouldn't have these enemies in the first place had we minded our own business and stopped interfering in the business of other nations, such as helping install the Shah in Iran in 1953.

That Ron Paul is dangerous, man. More WAR!!!!
I know they are not close but like I said we have to prevent it from happening at all times and sooner the better.
And yes. Our nukes are good and theirs are bad. Iran is unstable country ,unstable government with hidden agendas. There just to much corruption and extremist to allow them to have nukes. They could back a terrorist group like Al qaeda or sell the nukes and we can't allow that.

I have to go to bed now. night.
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Are you on crack? you think al qaeda, a group thats dedicated to annihilating shi'ite muslims and considers them subhuman and is responsible for killing HUNDREDS of them in a daily basis in karbala in Iraq is going to get nukes from iran

Al qaeda and sunni radicals have killed thousands more shi'ite muslims than americans. If anything you could put a strong case that al qaeda serves a strong purpose in iraq destabilising the country and preventing the population from making stronger ties with Iran

This is one of the key things wrong in america, ZERO knowledge of the world, the cultures, and the problems, and history

sounds to me like Paul has his personal beliefs, but is content to let america run itself

i dont agree with all of those, but i believe the founding fathers had something like that in mind
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