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Old 10-14-2012, 03:31 AM   #201 (permalink)
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according to the Agence France-Presse , expressed frustration with the drone strikes in Pakistan. In his message al-Rahman complained that drone-launched missiles were killing al Qaeda operatives faster than they could be replaced.


SO I AM %100 FOR "killing al Qaeda operatives faster than they could be replaced" .
What about the innocent civilians that are killed because of these drones?
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:39 AM   #202 (permalink)
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I think most of the american problems are caused by you americans yourselves by letting these kind of right wing cuckoos have an actual foothold in your politics. I always laugh when i see the interviews and hear the socio-political dogmas from the memebrs of your republican, tea and whatever other conservative sociopath parties you have. In my country the only purpose these kind of nationalistic christian reactionary groups have is to be at amusement of everyone else and as occassional comedic reliefs. Whoever convinced you americans to put these kind of derpies in an actual position of power and political influence was the most successful troll in the history. Also, your "left" party, the democrats, is actually the template example of an average right wing party, just sayin'.
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:20 AM   #203 (permalink)
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Absolutely not, just because we support a certain candidtate doesn't mean we hate America and want to see it fail.

But this economy was downright in the shitter because of Bush and his 8 years of destruction. You can go ahead and call that a "liberal talking point" if you want, but it's just a fact.



Again, no it's not acceptable. But if you expected Obama or any president for that matter short of Superman himself to be able to change this in just 4 years then you my friend are living in a fairy tale.



We found and killed Bin Laden, how is that looking weak? If you orchestrate an attack against this country, we will hunt you down and take you out. The Bush years hurt our alliance with a lot of countries, but Obama has mended those fences and we are stronger for it.

The Libya incident was a catastrophe. I won't make any excuses for the administration for that one. Going to war with a country based on false lies that were used to harbor fear in the public to gain support for such a war was downright terrible as well though.



On the rich? Hell yeah, thats fine with me. They can afford to pay a little more. Go ahead and use the Republican line of class warfare if you want, but the from the top down way of thinking has proved noneffective, we have to build from the bottom up.
I don't want to see America fail, I love the United States and have served her. The problem is I strongly feel we're headed in the wrong direction and 4 more years of President Obama will make it even worse.

The economy needed work and still needs work, but we're again headed in the wrong direction with it. We've seen our debt balloon as well as our deficit. The government needs to stop spending money it doesn't have.

Props for Bin Laden and I had said on here well done to Obama (even though I am one of his harshest critics here). However, Obama has succeeded in alienating many of our allies (Israel and eastern Europe as an example), while emboldening our enemies (Iran, North Korea, etc) into thinking we are truly weak.

The whole Libyan thing was a joke. We should have known an attack was coming and defended our embassy. Meanwhile, say what you want about Bush and Iraq, but he was going on intel the rest of the world also had, and at least (unlike Obama) he got Congressional approval to take action there. Obama's not doing so in Libya is a clear violation of the Constitution and if Bush had done that there would have been 37 articles of impeachment or so introduced for that.

I am fine with paying taxes and I'm sure many of the wealthy in the U.S. have no problem with doing so, either. However, Obama and his talking heads seem to have been hell-bent on punishing success. If someone makes a lot of money and has worked hard doing so, I applaud them and not condemn them. Plus, right now it's been a while since we've actually had a budget. With the whole tax-cut issue being a sticking point, no wonder many of the rich (and others) are sitting on their money right now. My prediction is that by the end of the year, if we have no resolution, the tax cuts expire and EVERYONE's taxes shoot up. I have a bad feeling if we start down that path, what happened in '08 will just seem like a bad dream.

The thing that bothers me the most about all of this is the amazing hypocrisy (not saying you) that others seem to use. I am a conservative tea-partier and don't apologize for it. However, I do give credit where credit is due and when Obama does the right thing I will say so. Yet, people IRL have blasted me for doing so, saying that I shouldn't say anything nice about him. On the flip side, Obama does some of the same things that Bush would do (the drones, for example) and he can't do anything wrong. I may not always agree, but at least I like to think that I bring more than zingers to the table and want to do the right thing for the United States.
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Old 10-14-2012, 12:13 PM   #204 (permalink)
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In regards to drone strikes, the Neo Conservative base of the GOP would have LOVED drone strikes 8 years ago. Now that seems to be the attitude amongst Centrist Dems while the GOP's increasingly conservative base is becoming more in line with the Taliban that we fight thanks to the Christian Right's increasing aggression. Mitt Romney represents that old Neo Conservative base while Ryan is a more Tea Party Social Conservative guy. Either they want to go the Neo Con route of interfering in other people's lives over seas(Now some Dems position) or they want to interfere in the lives of people at home with the Tea Party route. The Tea Party IS NOT a good base for Libertarians. I think all Socialists should break away from the Dems and all the Libertarians break away from the GOP. We could have 4 major parties that way.

Sorry if I'm rambling. I'm just trying to explain the shifting political environment in America.
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Old 10-15-2012, 02:07 PM   #206 (permalink)
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:06 PM   #207 (permalink)
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You know I decided to retract my last statement in this thread. I'm voting for Obama this year because I looked at a few of the facts and realized Obama is a great president. Lets look at all that he has accomplished since becoming president.

• First US Credit Rating Downgrade
in History
•Federal Spending 25% of GDP
Highest since WWII
• Budget Deficit 10% of GDP
Highest since WWI
• Federal Debt 67% of GDP
Highest since WWII
• Employment 58% of the population is working
Lowest since 1983!!!
•Long term unemployment 46% of total unemployment
Highest since 1930s
• Slowest job growth since WWII
• Home Ownership rate 57.9%
Lowest since 1965
• Percentage of population paying fed income tax 51%
LOWEST EVER IN MODERN HISTORY
• Oil drilling permits down 36%
90 billion dollars waisted on failed green energy companies
• Percentage of population receiving goverment assistance 47%
HIGHEST IN US A HISTORY!!!

• 16 million more Americans on food stamps
Almost twice as many Americans are collecting food stamps under Obama than under Clinton and Bush!

These are great accomplishments of President Obama, which is why I'm voting for him. I'm sure most of you will vote for him as well after I listed all of his accomplishments. Another term should help obama continue the upward trend in the Growth of america.



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Old 10-15-2012, 03:44 PM   #208 (permalink)
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I don't live in the US so I don't really care about Republicans or Democrats, although the Republicans are more entertaining. There are some real nutcases in that party.
How can you trust someone like Romney? That guy oozes slimy, bussiness, corporate, politician out of his veins. And don't get me started on that Ryan guy!
Not saying that Obama is the savior of all mankind by any means, but he looks somewhat trustworthy.
That why I such a fan of US elections, I find them very intriguing. Just like putting religion in everything. Does that really matter, is that important in many polotical issues?
Again republican or democrate. Like when the democrats forgot to put God or Jerusalem in their platform. Again is this important?

It really amazes me that a lot of people put the blame on your huge deficit on Obama. You expect that he could have changed that in the last 4 years?
As a outsider POV (I am European). It looks like a lot of people forget who was president the 8 years before Obama.

What are your views on the matter?
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I don't live in the US so I don't really care about Republicans or Democrats, although the Republicans are more entertaining. There are some real nutcases in that party.
How can you trust someone like Romney? That guy oozes slimy, bussiness, corporate, politician out of his veins. And don't get me started on that Ryan guy!
Not saying that Obama is the savior of all mankind by any means, but he looks somewhat trustworthy.
That why I such a fan of US elections, I find them very intriguing. Just like putting religion in everything. Does that really matter, is that important in many polotical issues?
Again republican or democrate. Like when the democrats forgot to put God or Jerusalem in their platform. Again is this important?

It really amazes me that a lot of people put the blame on your huge deficit on Obama. You expect that he could have changed that in the last 4 years?
As a outsider POV (I am European). It looks like a lot of people forget who was president the 8 years before Obama.

What are your views on the matter?
its sad but some think that religion is important i think its important to keep it out
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It really amazes me that a lot of people put the blame on your huge deficit on Obama. You expect that he could have changed that in the last 4 years?
Er, he made it a lot worse. Nobody blames him for the pre-existing deficit. Don't get me wrong though, it wouldn't have been better under a MITT ROMNEY. They're both as Keynesian as it gets.

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As a outsider POV (I am European). It looks like a lot of people forget who was president the 8 years before Obama.
Unfortunately Obama supporters use this as a crutch far too much. "We had a bad president for 8 years before so Obama is blameless for all his bad decisions". Ridiculous. Let's not settle for "also-awful", but how about "good" instead? Unfortunately there is no good option this year between the two major parties. Not until we get a Libertarian Republican nominee. Came close with Ron Paul, but alas. Four more years of status quo no matter who wins for us.

As for the merging of religion and state despite it being forbidden by the constitution, both parties are equally guilty of that. Just look at abortion and faith being a topic of discussion during the presidential debate. Watch C-Span sometime as congress opens in prayer that "God" will direct them according to his will. It's ridiculous. What's more ridiculous is liberals who pretend it's only the Republicans who are guilty of this.

Obama's stance on gay marriage was identical to the owner of Chic-Fil-A's up until a few months ago, so the Democrat backlash during that whole debacle is hilarious for objective observers.
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