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View Poll Results: who you voteing for Obama (D) , Romney (R) or Other

Obama (D) 224 63.46%
Romney (R) 62 17.56%
Other 67 18.98%
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:04 AM   #1691 (permalink)
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Ah, even worse than I originally thought then.

Still an impressive display of public ignorance, though.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:08 AM   #1692 (permalink)
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:24 AM   #1693 (permalink)
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b/c not supporting a war criminal and a man with an awful record when it comes to civil liberties makes us ignorant, right?

with that said, you have a right to support that man, even with the evidence out there to support our claims.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:36 PM   #1694 (permalink)
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Still an impressive display of public ignorance, though.
How about elaborating and providing specific counter-points instead of just generally insulting people you disagree with?
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:44 PM   #1695 (permalink)
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Senator Rand Paul fighting for your liberties once again.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...luded-in-votes

Pretty much my take on this whole Petraeus scandal:

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Old 11-16-2012, 03:52 PM   #1696 (permalink)
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How about elaborating and providing specific counter-points instead of just generally insulting people you disagree with?
What is this, common sense?

Come on CP, you know we have no time for that here.
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That Rand Paul is just another example of the right wing being OFF THE RAILS! We don't need our civil liberties. What we DO need is more undeclared wars and bills like the NDAA to keep those hoodlums in check!

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Aren't the Democrats supposed to be the party that is for civil liberties, yet it's a bi-partisan effort to ram this bill through the Senate and RAND stands alone and is trying to guarantee that our sixth amendment rights aren't violated. Shit, at least Republicans are open about most of the stuff they want, such as more wars and civil liberty violations. Democrats will tell you they're anti-war and then go ahead and authorize drone strikes. Democrats will tell you they're against your civil liberties being violated, yet they'll go ahead and reauthorize the Patriot Act.

Both the Republican and Democratic Parties are exactly the same with the exception on some social issues that should be left up to the states anyway. Befuddles me how some people still believe there is a real difference. Take the red pill, brothers.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:12 PM   #1698 (permalink)
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Wait didn't Ayn Rand hold libertarianism in extreme contempt? Why do libertarians hold her in high esteem? Or do they? Genuine question. Maybe I should be a libertarian then. Her philosophy is abhorrent.
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http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServ...s_libertarians

Yeah, Ayn Rand doesn't like Libertarians.

http://www.atlassociety.org/libertar...ism-compatible

Here is an article that tries to explain the differences between the two. Objectivism isn't Libertarianism, and Libertarianism isn't Objectivism.
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Wait didn't Ayn Rand hold libertarianism in extreme contempt? Why do libertarians hold her in high esteem? Or do they? Genuine question.
Many do but the idea that libertarians "jack off to Ayn Rand" is as ignorant as the idea Republicans "jack off to Pat Robertson". Just a mindless caricature being imposed by someone incapable of having a political discussion with people they disagree with. I wish we had some liberals in this thread who didn't resort to ad hominem attacks and actually were willing to make arguments based on facts so we could have a real discussion instead of 9QA-style political team sports warfare.

I watch videos and read articles by liberals all the time (as well as more modern conservatives and even anarchists) and there are some points where I can agree or sympathize. I absolutely wish that possibility existed in this thread as well. It'd be cool if you as a mod would enforce that type of mentality in this thread to encourage discussion, but that might be too much effort to exert for just one thread.
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