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Asenath · 11-13-2012, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CamillePunk

Curious if Asenath believes women should have free (free meaning paid for by everyone) birth control.

I believe if a woman pays for health insurance, birth control should be covered as preventative care. (And yes, theoretically, it should be free - I'm frankly shocked every day that the US doesn't have some form of Nationalized health care, like all the other Developed nations.)

kobra860 · 11-13-2012, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Asenath

Then why was she advocating for education, birth control, and better care for and information to pregnant women in the black community as early as the 30s?

Do you have any unbiased sources to verify that?

Asenath · 11-13-2012, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mithro

How about we get her opinion, and her words when it comes down to it?

http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm

Sorry, but most of those quotes are either made up entirely or hatchet-jobbed out of context.

Asenath · 11-13-2012, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kobra860

Do you have any unbiased sources to verify that?

Sanger's work, and her own quotes on the subject, are covered here under the heading "The Negro Project."

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/fil..._Hero_1009.pdf

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… a group notoriously underprivileged and
handicapped to a large measure by a ‘caste’
system that operates as an added weight
upon their efforts to get a fair share of the
better things in life. To give them the means
of helping themselves is perhaps the richest
gift of all. We believe birth control
knowledge brought to this group, is the most
direct, constructive aid that can be given
them to improve their immediate situation

Mithro · 11-13-2012, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Asenath

Sorry, but most of those quotes are either made up entirely or hatchet-jobbed out of context.

Give me a goddamn break, those are her words, they are all over the web, yeah, we don't have video or audio back then to completely confirm them, but we don't have those for most things back then.

You'll just say everything you disagree with is made up.

Asenath · 11-13-2012, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mithro

Give me a goddamn break, those are her words, they are all over the web, yeah, we don't have video or audio back then to completely confirm them, but we don't have those for most things back then.

You'll just say everything you disagree with is made up.

There is a HUGE body of Sanger's writings and recorded lectures.

kobra860 · 11-13-2012, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Asenath

Sorry, but most of those quotes are either made up entirely or hatchet-jobbed out of context.

She's done speeches for the KKK. Those quotes aren't too far from her true beliefs.

**MrMister** · 11-13-2012, 01:40 AM

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"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon

This is Her Struggle.

No clue if she actually said this or not. It's hard to trust random websites that may or may not have certain agendas.