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View Poll Results: who you voteing for Obama (D) , Romney (R) or Other
Obama (D) 224 63.46%
Romney (R) 62 17.56%
Other 67 18.98%
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Rand knows how to play nice with the GOP while voting his convictions. He's a trickster, in a good way.

He might need a new haircut before he runs for president though. Gotta look presidential and all that.


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Rand Paul is unelectable because his policies would drive the country into a downward spiral only seen by the likes of the Bushes.

If the (R) wants to have a shot, they'll get a moderate - like Obama, but right leaning.
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Explain how BALANCING THE BUDGET and not getting involved in other's nation's business would drive this country into the ground.

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Rand Paul is unelectable because his policies would drive the country into a downward spiral only seen by the likes of the Bushes.

If the (R) wants to have a shot, they'll get a moderate - like Obama, but right leaning.
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Re: Poll - Obama (D) vs Romney (R) - Vote

GEORGE PRESCOTT GAMICA BUSH.

He and Rubio will be the future. Bush v Clinton round 2 in 2016. Really GOP has to change or die. Pretty sure they'll change. All they have to do is kill Grover Norquist and it's game on again. Not literally kill him btw.

David Frum has a book out already called Why Romney Lost. Frum gets it. He's a conservative that is fed up with his party's bullshit. Republicans can do great things, but what they're trying to do nowadays isn't great. Evolve you stubborn sons of bitches.

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Explain how BALANCING THE BUDGET and not getting involved in other's nation's business would drive this country into the ground.
Austerity plans don't work. To improve the economy, you need big, expansive 'Great Society' plans. And those involve investing money instead of tightening up the purse strings.
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GEORGE PRESCOTT GAMICA BUSH.

He and Rubio will be the future. Bush v Clinton round 2 in 2016. Really GOP has to change or die. Pretty sure they'll change. All they have to do is kill Grover Norquist and it's game on again. Not literally kill him btw.

David Frum has a book out already called Why Romney Lost. Frum gets it. He's a conservative that is fed up with his party's bullshit. Republicans can do great things, but what they're trying to do nowadays isn't great. Evolve you stubborn sons of bitches.
Agreed. If the Republicans don't change, America will basically become a one party system which would be god awful considering the party that would be left in power.

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Austerity plans don't work. To improve the economy, you need big, expansive 'Great Society' plans. And those involve investing money instead of tightening up the purse strings.
Yes such as FDR's New Deal which prolonged the Great Depression and rose unemployment even further. When did we recover? When we had massive spending cuts following WWII.

Keynesianism has never worked and never will. Read history, please. Spending cuts are a necessity that people are going to have to accept if they actually want to see the economy improve.

Just imagine all the money we'd save with Rand Paul's non-interventionist foreign policy vs George Bush and Obama's nation-building, civil war-funding, drone strike bombing foreign policies which have the double-sided effect of creating new enemies and new endless wars, which btw, aside from innocent human lives, also cost money.


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I'm quite familiar with history, thank you. I also come from a family that wouldn't have survived the Depression without social programs like the Civil Conservation Corps. The New Deal was a literally a lifesaver for my grandparents and great-grandparents, who came to Arkansas from Oklahoma in a covered wagon in the 20s and were barely scratching out a living as subsistence farmers.

Having said that, I agree that military spending should be the first on the list of places to tighten. Not social programs - which only account for about 3% of federal spending - or education or public television and broadcasting or any of the other hobby horses libertarians grouse about. And since you brought up knowing history - in the most prosperous times in our nation's history, the top tier of wealth holders paid much more in taxes than they currently do. That's what makes prosperity possible.

You and I are not ever going to agree on the proper governance of this country. And that's OK.

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It's pretty debatable if the New Deal worked or not. WWII muddies the waters. There is no question Keynsian policies were widespread after WWII though. Whether it's viable in a long term sense is also debatable. To me, it can't be sustained over a long period of time because money growing on trees is bad news. Short term, it seems to work. I'm not an economist and I'm not pretending to be right here though. Just some dude's opinion on a wrestling forum.

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